eggssell Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 not sure how many have readt this from djtt but beatport looking at allowing the selling of mixes.no more hustling those cassette tapes out the back of the hatchbackhttp://www.djtechtools.com/2012/06/19/b ... itimately/ive only skimmed and will read tonight Quote
legunner Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Massive dislike i cant see this system working Quote
russell Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 surely you'd have to get clearance for any tracks you wanted you use so this will be useless Quote
eggssell Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 no beatport will handle all the clearance as i think the point is you use tracks sold on beatport. Quote
eggssell Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 in essence it is extending your licence on the tracks you buy off beatport to one where you can make money off it.so if you sell your mix, you get a cut; then the label and artists get a cut (and they would have already got a cut when you first bought the track) Quote
russell Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 So it's basically a marketing ploy to ensure everyone just keeps buying the same tracks off of beatport. To me that kills any originality (to an extent) in finding tracks that other people aren't playing. I certainly this would be no use to me. I don't even use beatport anymore. Can't remember the last time I bought anything from them. Quote
OxyKon Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 There's gonna be a lot of red tape here, cause in there they also expect that in the future soundcloud and mixcloud will start putting takedown notices on mixes, which means im gonna be fucked not mention a lot of us from here Quote
GREMM1S Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Shouldnt be able to sell a mix def against it Quote
MelodyIlliterate Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 wonder how much buying a mix would cost... and why would dj's buy a mix in the first place? Quote
eggssell Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 i dont think its for dj's to buy mixes.its for the general public to buy mixes.but agree, that one of its flaws is who will buy mixes. no one does these days with soundcloud, podcasts, and a lot of djs just megauploading on their sites.i myself only ever bought fabric lives and the occassional krafy kuts and kid kenobi mixes. but def havent for many years now. Quote
russell Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 cause in there they also expect that in the future soundcloud and mixcloud will start putting takedown notices on mixes, where did you see this? but def havent for many years now.With all the live recordings available there's no point in buying mixes. Quote
MelodyIlliterate Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 plus there are more podcasts available on itunes for free than you can poke a stick at Quote
Vaughn Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Mixes should be free and stay free. I though that was the point of a mix, to let fans listen to what your throwing down Quote
OxyKon Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 cause in there they also expect that in the future soundcloud and mixcloud will start putting takedown notices on mixes, where did you see this? 3rd paragraph downwonder how much buying a mix would cost... and why would dj's buy a mix in the first place?This is quoted further down the page:The price breakdown of mixes works like this:Mixes cost $5.29 to purchaseDJ will earn 10%Label gets 60%PROs get 30% Quote
GREMM1S Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 So bad, a dj mix is not like a song that can be bought, completely different.I assume it will die very quickly Quote
Tomy Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 So it's basically a marketing ploy to ensure everyone just keeps buying the same tracks off of beatport. To me that kills any originality (to an extent) in finding tracks that other people aren't playing. there's so much content on beatport if you cant find shit that no one else is playing your doing it wrong. the art of digging is one that should be practiced by any dj. Not a crack at you russell as i hear this a lot from other dj's.As the CEO of beatport has said this is for the future AND it seems like a very smart move. Sooner or later SOPA and/or anti piracy coding / something will happen to stop a lot of the free DL's. Sony are already doing it with unreleased movies and the PS3. when that time comes beatport will already be established with selling mixes. Quote
legunner Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Lets be honest hereThe only mixes that people will buy are the ones that are done by world class DJs and Producers.Im not gonna buy a mix from any regular joe because i can just go out and watch a dj perform for free. Quote
russell Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 there's so much content on beatport if you cant find shit that no one else is playing your doing it wrong. the art of digging is one that should be practiced by any dj. Not a crack at you russell as i hear this a lot from other dj's.do you think the majority of people who use beatport dig through smaller labels and back catalogues of now defunct labels? Or do you think he majority of people listen to top 10/top 100's and buy from them? Quote
legunner Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 there's so much content on beatport if you cant find shit that no one else is playing your doing it wrong. the art of digging is one that should be practiced by any dj. Not a crack at you russell as i hear this a lot from other dj's.do you think the majority of people who use beatport dig through smaller labels and back catalogues of now defunct labels? Or do you think he majority of people listen to top 10/top 100's and buy from them?What you're implying is 100% correct most people look at the top 10 otherwise there wouldnt be a top 10 on the page Quote
eggssell Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 Lets be honest hereThe only mixes that people will buy are the ones that are done by world class DJs and Producers.Im not gonna buy a mix from any regular joe because i can just go out and watch a dj perform for free.all djs start somewhere.and you know what i notice a lot of youngins saying they wouldnt buy mixes, but pre itunes we always did. whether it was a five dollar bootleg of the local (who for us was moto); or a full release cd from a superstar dj like you mention; or badly copied imports of less superstar djs. Quote
eggssell Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 there's so much content on beatport if you cant find shit that no one else is playing your doing it wrong. the art of digging is one that should be practiced by any dj. Not a crack at you russell as i hear this a lot from other dj's.do you think the majority of people who use beatport dig through smaller labels and back catalogues of now defunct labels? Or do you think he majority of people listen to top 10/top 100's and buy from them?What you're implying is 100% correct most people look at the top 10 otherwise there wouldnt be a top 10 on the pageummm but no different then when people were buying in record shops. some digg some go charts. being on beatport doesnt change the habits. im a digger but thats how i am. Take one lead and follow it till its dead. Then move onto the next one.but yeh theres definately lots of good shit on beatport. i go on juno cuz im a cheap ass, plus you can get a lot of US releaeses that are region locked on beatport. Quote
OxyKon Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Lets be honest hereThe only mixes that people will buy are the ones that are done by world class DJs and Producers.Im not gonna buy a mix from any regular joe because i can just go out and watch a dj perform for free.all djs start somewhere.and you know what i notice a lot of youngins saying they wouldnt buy mixes, but pre itunes we always did. whether it was a five dollar bootleg of the local (who for us was moto); or a full release cd from a superstar dj like you mention; or badly copied imports of less superstar djs.I have to agree with this, and it's not just pre iTunes, it still happens today, I bought an album from this kid from Oakland when I was in Cali, was selling them outside a Macy's store in San Fran, 13 tracks that the kid had done in Logic and it was pretty Dan decent, I paid $10 for it, and you walk around Times Sqaure in New York and there a countless people selling their mixtapes Quote
Tomy Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 there's so much content on beatport if you cant find shit that no one else is playing your doing it wrong. the art of digging is one that should be practiced by any dj. Not a crack at you russell as i hear this a lot from other dj's.do you think the majority of people who use beatport dig through smaller labels and back catalogues of now defunct labels? Or do you think he majority of people listen to top 10/top 100's and buy from them?What you're implying is 100% correct most people look at the top 10 otherwise there wouldnt be a top 10 on the pageummm but no different then when people were buying in record shops. some digg some go charts. being on beatport doesnt change the habits. im a digger but thats how i am. Take one lead and follow it till its dead. Then move onto the next one.but yeh theres definately lots of good shit on beatport. i go on juno cuz im a cheap ass, plus you can get a lot of US releaeses that are region locked on beatport.yep, well said. i'm a digger. its seems less and less people are after the phase out of vinyl. Quote
Tomy Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 the internet has the whole stigma about it where no one will pay for anything. but it's slowly changing. i think its for the better, i dont mind parting with $5.90 for a mix or some music. i mean its $5.90 I can believe people whinge about such a little cost. Pie + coke = $8-$10 1 hr mix tape full of tunes that people have spend months of the time/life on = $5.60amirite? Quote
MelodyIlliterate Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 But who is their target audience? the people who i know that subscribe to podcasts for dance music wouldn't even know what beetport is... unless they're planning on broadening their clientèle, i don't see this going very far... I know myself that i would rather spend the money on buying the tracks myself for the enjoyment of throwing my own mixes together than listen to the one mix over and over again... and i wouldn't call myself a dj, just an enthusiast, Quote
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