Beat Matching V's Sync...

[OxyKon]

Lol I love that last line

[anditz]

auto sync never sounds perfect. cdjs/vinyls all the way

[SourceRaver]

If anything, the best comparison is synch = wanking off. Instant gratification, but in the end, your just fucking yourself.

Back on topic!

[lloydc]

Sync has No pro's, if you do it you are not a DJ, you may as well be nightlife

wrong on a number of levels... you seem to be forgetting it's about the music, and reading the crowd.

grats if you can beatmatch two songs together using cds, but if they suck, then who is really the better DJ? (answer= sync guy)

furthermore, richie hawtin syncs 4 things at once, you can't tell me he's 'nightlife'.

[Jaz]

no lloydc, everything you said there would make you an entertainer not a DJ, and no he sounds like human nightlife to me

[andyman]

I'd love for you to tell one of the founders of the Detroit Techno scene, and a major influence to EDM in general that he isn't a DJ.

Nice logic you fucking gronk.

[Jaz]

i would, straight to the sell out cunce face, he might as well put virtual DJ on with an autosync playlist and stand back and watch....what a fag lololololololol

Paris hilton is now a DJ because she could do what he does if you call that "DJing"

this guy can obviously DJ, but instead of hooking up a DVS to decks and doing it legit, he sells out and uses sync....just sad

[SolDios]

I used the phrase meter in traktor to help me learn, now I can beatmatch without it fine.

It's good if you use it in a way to help you learn, rather than to do the work for you.

As for sync, tried it once, got really bored. Not doing it again.

[lloydc]

no lloydc, everything you said there would make you an entertainer not a DJ, and no he sounds like human nightlife to me

so DJs don't entertain?

human nightlife = human that plays music?

[SolDios]

One thing though, I seriously don't see it as that big of a deal

being able to beat match is shit all when it comes to making a good mix, there's all kinds of things like EQ'ing, timing, keys, phrasing.

Sync doesn't mean any man and his dog can get up and be a super star dj, it still takes alot of practice and skill

[Jaz]

lol i was about to rant then sol, you made it sound like Syncing takes "alot of practice and skill" in that last sentence...then i realized how i hope you meant it

Sync = watch for 1st beat of 16 bar phrase, press sync on 1st beat, mix done

[lloydc]

i would, straight to the sell out cunce face, he might as well put virtual DJ on with an autosync playlist and stand back and watch....what a fag lololololololol

Paris hilton is now a DJ because she could do what he does if you call that "DJing"

this guy can obviously DJ, but instead of hooking up a DVS to decks and doing it legit, he sells out and uses sync....just sad

there are so many things wrong with this post, i don't know where to begin.

when will you learn that what this is about is the music, and not the medium in which it is conveyed?

you do realise that beat matching ≠ DJing, yeah?

[SolDios]

Just to be clear, I ment there's alot more to learn other than beat-matching,

Even if they sync, there still gona sound like shit, as most people don't even know about phrasing, or bars and whatnot.

[Jaz]

you do realise that beat matching ≠ DJing, yeah?

lol you just shut yourself down right there...yeh, and sync is no beatmatching, hence no DJ =D> =D> =D> =D>

[eggssell]

yawn. a disc jockey is the term of "jockeying" from one record to the next. that is the true dj and always has been.

any comments outside of that discounts mobile dj's work; radio dj's work and is straight out elitist.

a harmonicly beat matching body tricking dj is no doubt awesome, but that isn't the only dj.

a cdj is just a big ass controller even if you use cd's. i.e. it is a "controller" manipulating a digital file which was obtained from the media being a cd.

back on topic.

sync is like driving a car, period.

some cowboy elitist choose to ride a horse and think they are king shit.

NOTE: never used sync, and anyone with TT's and a dvs knows the sync button is greyed out anyway. but ive said it before i saw a superstar dj mixing perfectly as the crowd slowly fell asleep. so to me that was shit djing despite the manual beatmatching and harmonic mixing. but ive been to weddings where the dj is playing the crowd like a farking pied piper

[Jaz]

very well said sir ^

[russell]

furthermore, richie hawtin syncs 4 things at once, you can't tell me he's 'nightlife'.

Richie Hawtin doesn't just sync tracks though. He's pretty much remixing on the fly and creating something new from a number of slices from various tracks. He even says that if you sync just to mix records you aint shit really.

[lloydc]

furthermore, richie hawtin syncs 4 things at once, you can't tell me he's 'nightlife'.

Richie Hawtin doesn't just sync tracks though. He's pretty much remixing on the fly and creating something new from a number of slices from various tracks. He even says that if you sync just to mix records you aint shit really.

i'm aware of this, but I was keeping it simple for the peasants that just don't get it

[russell]

. but ive said it before i saw a superstar dj mixing perfectly as the crowd slowly fell asleep. so to me that was shit djing despite the manual beatmatching and harmonic mixing. but ive been to weddings where the dj is playing the crowd like a farking pied piper

The crowd is all subjective though when it comes to things like weddings/club/whatever. Take that mad for it wedding crowd and stick them in a club with Ame or Dixon and they'd probably be bored out their tits. Whereas, stick me in a wedding crowd and I'd be bored off my tits. Regardless of DJ skills.

[lloydc]

you do realise that beat matching ≠ DJing, yeah?

lol you just shut yourself down right there...yeh, and sync is no beatmatching, hence no DJ =D> =D> =D> =D>

sigh...

i'm not sure if you're trolling, or you really are that ignorant?

[eggssell]

. but ive said it before i saw a superstar dj mixing perfectly as the crowd slowly fell asleep. so to me that was shit djing despite the manual beatmatching and harmonic mixing. but ive been to weddings where the dj is playing the crowd like a farking pied piper

The crowd is all subjective though when it comes to things like weddings/club/whatever. Take that mad for it wedding crowd and stick them in a club with Ame or Dixon and they'd probably be bored out their tits. Whereas, stick me in a wedding crowd and I'd be bored off my tits. Regardless of DJ skills.

yeah for sure. but what about a crowd on the beach raring to tear it up because of the last dj, then superstar comes on and just cruises at boring speed. regardless of his dj skills.

i guess my point was, beatmatching does not make a dj.

[russell]

yeah for sure. but what about a crowd on the beach raring to tear it up because of the last dj, then superstar comes on and just cruises at boring speed. regardless of his dj skills.

i guess my point was, beatmatching does not make a dj.

You could also chalk that down to poor warm up skills of the previous DJ. Many times i've seen guys 'warming up' by playing some shit that's way too banging for the time of night and not suited to the guest DJ's style.

That shit bugs me more than anything... whales need to learn how to warm up properly.

[lloydc]

beatmatching does not make a dj.

jaz might understand this concept a little better coming from someone else, like yourself.

agree completely with what you're saying eggs

also, russel makes a good point about the warmup DJ

[Jaz]

i never said that was all there was to a DJ, but if the DJ isnt beatmatching but just clapping his hands and getting the crowd going then presses sync to change tracks....then he is an entertainer, might as well be an MC

[Cupe]

jaz make your fucking opinions without being a fuckwit