Mitch Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (note: only on my phone, will tidy up post when I get on comp)Taken from: http://pioneerdj.com/en/products/djm850-more-en.html24bit/96kHz Built-in High Performance USB SoundcardAn integrated high performance USB soundcard that enables up to four inputs/outputs(*1) simultaneously with no deterioration in sound quality. The soundcard supports three different sampling rates (96kHz/48kHz/44.1kHz) and the ASIO/Core Audio standards that can also be used for music recording and production. The USB port on top of the mixer provides quick connections to use DJ software via laptop. The signal output path from the mixer can be easily modified using its setup utility tool(*2) via a computer.*1 Windows/Mac OS supported. For Windows, distribution to three or more systems is possible only when using software that supports ASIO.*2 USB soundcard functions can be used by installing the driver software and setup utility software from the CD-ROM that is included.Setup utility toolVariety of Advanced EffectsThe DJM-850 follows Pioneer's traditional mixer layout, featuring a variety of advanced sound effects that provide DJs with virtually limitless possibilities when mixing their music. Pioneer includes a new BEAT COLOR FX function which changes effects by linking the input sound from each channel.SOUND COLOR FX:The SOUND COLOR FX offers four types of effects (Filter, Crush, Noise and Gate) that can be linked to the input sound of each channel. BEAT COLOR FX:Users can quickly change between the new BEAT COLOR FX and SOUND COLOR FX to suit each tune for further remixing and sound capabilities. With the industry's first(*3) BEAT COLOR FX activated, users can manipulate the SOUND COLOR FX in new creative ways to the beat of the music.BEAT EFFECTThe BEAT EFFECT function presents 13 different types of effects (Delay, Echo, Up Echo , Spiral Reverb, Trans, Filter, Flanger, Phaser, Robot, Slip Roll, Roll and Reverse Roll) that can be combined to produce up to 100 other original effects.*3 As a hardware DJ mixer. Current as of February 23, 2012, based on Pioneer research.SOUND COLOR FXBEAT COLOR FXBEAT EFFECTHigh sound qualityThe use of high quality components such as a 32-bit digital-to-analog output converter and a 32-bit digital signal processor, separate analog and digital circuitry, and extremely short audio transmission paths results in clear and powerful audio output.TRAKTOR SCRATCH 2 CertifiedSimple connection to Scratch Control (DVS)(*4) with TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2/DUO 2(*5)Connect the DJM-850 to a PC to Scratch Control (DVS) with CDJ player and Vinyl using timecode disc bundled in TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2/DUO 2.*4 SCRATCH CONTROL with DJM-850 is planned to be available from the next TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2/DUO 2 version.*5 TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO 2/DUO 2 is Native Instruments DJ software.Additional FeaturesThe DJM-850 is equipped with additional features that add to the versatility of the mixer:MIDI Signal - Operation information of the mixer's knobs and buttons can be transmitted as a MIDI signal for a "Full Ensemble MIDI" function to control other connected devices.Switching 3 - Band EQ/Isolator - Each channel of the mixer is equipped with a switchable 3-band EQ (+6dB to -26dB) and 3-band isolator (+6dB to -∞dB)High Performance Channel Faders - The slide mechanism supports the fader knobs with two metal shafts for both durability and smooth operation.Furthermore, the new mechanism's design minimizes the negative effects of moisture or dust particles on the mixer's performance.P-LOCK Fader Cap - Keeps the fader channel and crossfader knobs (caps) locked, preventing them from physically slipping off during heavy use.Scratch Control -Scratch Control(*6) is possible by using the time code disk attached to DJ software supporting DVS (Digital Vinyl System) from CDJ players and vinyl turntables.Auto Standby - Automatically senses inactive operation and the presence of input signals, switching to standby mode when inputs are not detected for a long period of time.*6 Serato's SCRATCH LIVETM is not supported.Rear panelWindows is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and other countries.Mac OS is trademarks of Apple, Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.Serato's SCRATCH LIVETM s a registered trademark of Serato.TRAKTOR is a registered trademark of Native Instruments, Inc.Main SpecificationsNo. of channels：Audio : 4, Mic :2■Inputs：CD/LINE x 4 (RCA), LINE x 2 (RCA), PHONO x 2 (RCA)MIC x 2 (XLR & 1/4 inch PHONE combined use x 1, 1/4 inch PHONE x 1)）■Outputs：MASTER OUT x 2 (RCA x1, XLR x 1)BOOTH OUT x 1 (1/4 inch PHONE)HEADPHONE MONITOR OUT x 1 (top side 1/4 inch PHONE)REC OUT x 1 (RCA)DIGITAL OUT x 1 (COAXIAL)■Other ports：SEND x 1 (1/4 inch PHONE), RETURN x 1 (1/4 inch PHONE)MIDI OUT x 1 (5P DIN), USB x 1 (top side B port),CONTROL x 4 (φ3.5 mm MINI JACK)■Sampling rate：96kHz■D/A converter：32 bits (MASTER D/A Converter)■A/D converter：24bit■Frequency response：20Hz～20kHz■Total harmonic distortion：0.004% or less■S/N ratio：106 dB (LINE)■USB soundcard：INPUT:Stereo 4 channel,OUTPUT:Stereo 4 channel24 bit,Sampling rate:96 kHz/48 kHz/44.1 kHz■Head-room：19dB■Power use：Voltage is different for each country.■Electricity consumption：30W■Max. external dimensions：320mm(W)×381mm(D)×108mm(H)■Weight：7.7kgThoughts? 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Jaz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Had a quick flick threw, seems it's just alot more software friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 i cant even keep up with all the pioneer shit now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 yeh exactly, DJ gear is becoming like all electronics now, new model every couple of months to keep oblivious customers buying the newest gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 So if the 900 apparently the new 800, what the shit is this?Why not just stick with 900's?or just name it the 800 mk2 to make the numbers less freaking confusing than they already are.Like the djm 250, I don't get it's numbers, it's better than the 400 in some ways, but not as good in others :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SourceRaver Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Wow...train spotters step aside, here come the Pioneer spotters!Its bloody hard to keep track as it is!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobberz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Im considering something like this to get rid of the bulky Audio 8 and its ugly cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Im considering something like this to get rid of the bulky Audio 8 and its ugly cables.Ever considered a DJM T1?You can get em for 1k from the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Pioneer going silly with models now, the pricing will really determine if this is a more entry level mixer as they keep saying home use when describing it, or it could be another cash grab, was hoping for dj link but ah well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobberz Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Im considering something like this to get rid of the bulky Audio 8 and its ugly cables.Ever considered a DJM T1?You can get em for 1k from the states.Only 2ch brah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hobz this will be expensive when it's released, you would be better off with an 800, probly cost less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobberz Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hobz this will be expensive when it's released, you would be better off with an 800, probly cost lessI have an 800, point of the 850 is to use the inbuilt traktor soundcard so I can do away with external Audio 8 interface I'm using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 But you already have the 800 and soundcsrd why go to the hassle of selling then forking out more $ for itwho knows it could be better than we expect though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggs Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 yer i cant keep up anymore lol good idea to integrate traktor tho, wish they made it so it was switchable with serato/traktor so many more clubs would buy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 yer i cant keep up anymore lol good idea to integrate traktor tho, wish they made it so it was switchable with serato/traktor so many more clubs would buy them!Your asking for convenience. That would be too practical, for two competing companies to work together on a soundcard. Would be nice, but won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 yer i cant keep up anymore lol good idea to integrate traktor tho, wish they made it so it was switchable with serato/traktor so many more clubs would buy them!Your asking for convenience. That would be too practical, for two competing companies to work together on a soundcard. Would be nice, but won't happenCould have 2 separate sound cards, doubt they would though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Why would rane integrate one of their soundcards into a pioneer product when they sell their own mixers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 true but Couldn't pioneer legally buy Rane's soundcard and put it in their mixer as it's commercially available? Or even create a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 No because of patent and copyright infringement. And they can't make a copy because rane would have to push an update tp make it wok with serato software. If it were to happen it would be on rane's terms, not pioneers, as rane has the upper hand if pioneer approach them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 No because of patent and copyright infringement. And they can't make a copy because rane would have to push an update tp make it wok with serato software. If it were to happen it would be on rane's terms, not pioneers, as rane has the upper hand if pioneer approach them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Well not an exact copy but your probly right , dunno why we are discussing it because they never will lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Pioneer have been on a power trip since the 1000'sOk I'm done lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxyKon Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 guarantee with this being released the 900 will drop in price slightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 do yo uthink rane make more from their own mixers or from licencing serato to other manufacturers? the rane mixers realy are pretty niche even within dj's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I haven't seen serato soundcards in other manufacturers mixers?Only traktor. However I do agree they would sell alot more sl2/3/4 units than their own mixers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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