Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Halew guys, i need some help. I've decided to buy a pair off CDJs but i'm stuck between two. Now my level of DJ-ing like good but not that good. So i guess i'm an Intermediate DJ. Also, i'm only 16 so i don't have a high budget. probably around $2000. So my first choice is a Pioneer CDJ 400 Pack. It costs around $1600. Comes with 2xCDJ 400 (Derr) and a DJM 400 mixer. My other choice is the Denon DN-S3700 pack which costs like $1800. It comes with the CD Players and a behringer DDM 4000. The DNS is pretty cool though. the platter spins so it feels like vinyl. But having Pioneer can really help me get places. Think about it. if you have nike shoes, you're the best. But if you have generic brand shoes, you're poor. I hate marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The Good thing about pioneer players as the layout of all of them are the same, so once you learn how to use them, you can use any of them. Saying that, the fundamental skills are all the same. Maybe something like the cdj 350 pack that opticon has for sale in the buy and sell section would suit you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yizzle Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Think about it. if you have nike shoes, you're the best. But if you have generic brand shoes, you're poor. I hate marketing.dont think like that, its not true, the most gnarly people rock out with whatever the hell they want.Anyone can make shit music on $4000 worth of gear & vice versaon the technical side, these guys know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Maybe something like the cdj 350 pack that opticon has for sale in the buy and sell section would suit you?Well if i want a pair off CDJs I'd probably want ones that are scratch capable so i can practice my turntablismdont think like that, its not true, the most gnarly people rock out with whatever the hell they want.Anyone can make shit music on $4000 worth of gear & vice versaHaha, yeah i know. That's why i said i hated marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Well the pio decks have vinyl mode which you can scratch with if that's what you mean, they just don't have moving platters. So you can scratch with them. If your serious about scratching, you may want to go with turntables with a time code setup. or as you said there is cdjs with moving platter. Not sure what cdjs do that, or which are good/bad models, wazza knows his stuff in that department though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The scratching on the cdj 350 is ok..love this video...just shows that if you can scratch you can scratch on anything and make it sound goodThe denon 3700 are all good with the 9 inch turnning platter ....or wait for the new 3900 to come out after namm..Or you can look at a numark ns 7 for about $1300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 i actually watched a documentary yesterday called 'Scratch'... (available to watch here http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/scratch/ )All about the history of scratching funnily enough. Intersting watch if you like that kind of thing. Really looks at the history of the whole subculture. If you wanna scratch you wanna scratch on vinyl after watching this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 if you want to get in to the hard-core scratching buy thishttp://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VESTAX-Q ... 3cc08a1a99.....I had one so good for scratching ...this one got a innofader... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I know that it's better to scratch with vinyl but I'm just starting out and as I said, i'm gunna practice with CDJs then I'm gonna buy some turntables and hone my skills there. i have a friend who owns scratches with vinyls so he can probably teach me aswell.and i thought the 350s couldn't scratch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 over the 2 choices you gave us i would recomend the pioneer pack, but for $1600 dude u can do better then that...you can get 2xcdj400's and a DJM400 for $1000 if you wait for the right deal (used of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 and i thought the 350s couldn't scratch?...see the frist vid i posted the scratch on the cdj 350 is very good...DJ CO-MA is a JAP DMC champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 wow, i read online that the any model above the CDJ 400 scratches, i thought wrong then. the biggest problem with buying used from ebay: pickup only. i just saw a pair of 400s that's for sale for like $800 i live in WA :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 people often put pick up only but will post if you ask, cant hurt to ask, also check gumtree dude because 90% of people on gumtree are willing to post....and postage is fuck all, i posted my 400's from QLD to WA for $45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Alright sweet, deffinitely gunna sniff around for a bit. thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 i'm gunna practice with CDJs then I'm gonna buy some turntables and hone my skills there. If this is the case would you not be better starting out with vinyl? save on double expense when you want to get turtables? CDj's and turntables are pretty different beasts so if you intend to move to turntables you'd be as well starting on them. Should be able to get a decent set of direct drive tables for a good price. my set of numark TT 2 pro's only sold for $230. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 also check out buy and sell section as there is a cdj350 and djm350 pack in there selling for something like $1400 and he lives in WA so thats convenient for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 If this is the case would you not be better starting out with vinyl? save on double expense when you want to get turtables? CDj's and turntables are pretty different beasts so if you intend to move to turntables you'd be as well starting on them. I agree with you completely BUT i'd practice on CDJs first because off CDs. If i had a chance, i would. buy turntables but then i'd have to buy records and they aren't cheap. i saw a record that was like $100. If i buy CDJs first not only i can a) hone my DJ-ing skills and practice some scratching aswell but also I'd save money. Like i said, i'm only 16 and i don't have a lot off money on me. plus, as i said, my friend owns a pair of turnies (as he likes to call them) and i can practice off them aswell. i can also probably get a "friendly" discount if he wants to get rid off them someday. also, scratching is just something i'm putting aside. something i'll use if i wanna make my sets abit interesting or for showing off to my friends. not planning on doing it profesionally... yetand wouldn't it be easier to move my equipment around when i get hired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Cdjs are going to be smaller, lighter and therefore easier to move around. Especially when you sit it all in one roadcase. These can scratch as wazza said. The 350s are actually a newer model than the 400s, so your probably better off with the 350s. They are also recordbox compatible for when your preparing your usbsIf your keen on getting cdjs and on a low budget, something like this would be ideal man, in WA too: viewtopic.php?t=8622This is the one andyman was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 yeah, i saw that, pre cool. i think i found the same product for a bit less though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opticon Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Well my price isn't 100% firm and mine still have warranty. So let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 If this is the case would you not be better starting out with vinyl? save on double expense when you want to get turtables? CDj's and turntables are pretty different beasts so if you intend to move to turntables you'd be as well starting on them. I agree with you completely BUT i'd practice on CDJs first because off CDs. If i had a chance, i would. buy turntables but then i'd have to buy records and they aren't cheap. i saw a record that was like $100. If i buy CDJs first not only i can a) hone my DJ-ing skills and practice some scratching aswell but also I'd save money. Like i said, i'm only 16 and i don't have a lot off money on me. plus, as i said, my friend owns a pair of turnies (as he likes to call them) and i can practice off them aswell. i can also probably get a "friendly" discount if he wants to get rid off them someday. also, scratching is just something i'm putting aside. something i'll use if i wanna make my sets abit interesting or for showing off to my friends. not planning on doing it profesionally... yetand wouldn't it be easier to move my equipment around when i get hired?Fair enough if you can get a shot of them somewhere. Although mst records don't cost $100. Rare records might cost this. Most expensive record in my collection is worth around $130 but thats because there's not many around. if you dig through second hand shops (or even better discogs) you get some cracking records on the cheap. some for the price on an mp3. It's all about diggin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anditz Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 also remember that the 350's dont have a light to show which point the "record" is at. this is pretty handy for scratching live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 you know what guys? after chattin with some friends yesterday and asking people around, checking stores and talking to some experts,i've decided to go "puck it" and buy my self a pair of 900s. yeah it'll take longer but i'm only 16 right? how many shows will i get in the next two years? *sigh* bette ask for more shifts at mcdonalds...http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/specials/ ... jm700.htmlprobably the best deal since i'm getting all that good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Dude, go with the 350's you wont regret itScratching on cdj's is a gimmick IMO anyway, 350's is the perfect package for someone starting, I mean you don't even need to buy scratch sound card to work it with traktor.Im using 800's with a djm 400, And honestly I think I should have gotten the 350 package.Do it man, it's a great choice! you won't regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narukami Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 argh! so many opinions, so many decisions why can't there just be one alpha CDJ where not only is it affordable but works as well as all the other cd players out there? oh yeah, they have the same marketing stratergy as apple WHOOPS DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD?!Well as i said, i'm probaly not gonna have alot of shows in the next 2 years (unless i decide i want to start a rave at my school, with my teachers permission off course). So i have two years to decide really. but as the salesman told me the other day: if you wanna get in the business fast, buy the cheaper models but if you think you're gunna get far in your career, buy the pro models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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