SolDios Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Tomorrow I will be soldering on a new 3.5 line socket to my hd-25'sMy dad is just picking up a socket from jaycar for me as DSE no longer sell themhttp://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.as ... rm=KEYWORDIm going to get my mate to do it, as he has done soldering before, but were both wondering, is there any special kinds of solder for audio devices? would standard solder be fine?Thanks!Kris Quote
russell Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 If you've got HD25's why do you need to do this exactly? Quote
SolDios Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 The old jack is dying, you need to wiggle it and get it in the right position to hear the music properly, otherwise the bass cut's out. Quote
russell Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Was going to recommend just getting a replacement cable but just had a look at the price of them over here. $95. Thats half the value I paid for a new set. Quote
russell Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 In saying that you can pick one up on ebay a lot cheaper. around $40 mark Quote
SolDios Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 I haven't seen any that cheap.This way though, it costs me less than $5 if I solder it. Quote
Mitch Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 We discussed and linked the above options to him in earlier thread - viewtopic.php?f=41&t=7785He chose to take this path over the cable path (just so you know russell, think it was before you joined the family ) Quote
SolDios Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 Long story short, is there a special solder for audio devices? Quote
russell Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 quick look at google and there's video's explaining how to do it. good chance they'll say what type of solder (I don't have audio). Quote
Hobberz Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 22swg (Standard Wire Gauge). Its a very thin solder used for electronics. Quote
imadje Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 22swg (Standard Wire Gauge). Its a very thin solder used for electronics.^this.but sol: have a crack yourself. practise on spare wire and the old socket first.It's a skill worth learning and will save you loads of money in the future. Quote
SolDios Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 Thanks guys!So this is my plan, first cut the cable using special clipping cables, then strip the two cables back to revel all 4 of the inner cables. Then strip them back, there should be two sets in here:1st inner cableEarth(Left or right) channel2nd inner cableEarth (Left or right) channelThe main challenge is going to be finding out which wire is which. As people have found a variety of different inner wire colours.I plan to do this by hooking the socket into the mdex with the connections exposed, from here I will try electrical taping each cable on to the different spot's, trying every possible combination.(Im going to see if they also have a 6.5 version which you don't need to solder (screw hold)), to identify each cable easier.When I have identified the earth's and the audio wires, I will pan to the left to identify which channel is left and right.What do you think? Quote
Lurk6r Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 If you melt your mdex dont come crying to us.Soldering tip: For a strong bond, you heat up the object your applying the solder to, YOUR NOT MEANT TO TOUCH THE SOLDER WITH THE IRON. Quote
imadje Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 should help.the only tip i can offer: when you are stripping the wires be really REALLY careful. There are only a few strands of internal cable to each wire and they are thin. Any time you cut through them you have to start over stripping the sheathing.And what lurker said is also true although on really fiddly jobs like this if you heat up the jack too much the plastic moulding round the edge of the new unit can melt. Sometimes it is better to melt a tiny bit of solder onto the cable then apply this to the joint then heat cable, solder and unit together.I'm not gonna make this sound easy coz it isnt but it is a good skill to have.Good luck. Quote
anditz Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Yeah Sol, make sure you watch your friend closely as he does it. It's a fiddly job with the hd25's steel cable, it's not malleable so its a pain in the buttocks. Also I recommend you use a knife to strip the cable, be very delicate. The steel cable is stronger than a normal one, but it is thinner so you don't want to waste any strands of wire by cutting too far.It took me two goes when i did it - I lost my patience and fucked up the first jack (made a mess of it because of my lack of soldering skillz) so just make sure everything is planned out. Quote
Mitch Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 What all above said. But maybe look on YouTube, there may be a tutorial hd 25 specific which will tell you the wires Quote
anditz Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 ^Pretty sure there is one.I'm about to do this repair for a friend, I guess I could record my efforts on video if you like? Quote
SolDios Posted December 18, 2011 Author Posted December 18, 2011 ^ THISand you will be my hero forever! Quote
anditz Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Unfortunately for you, I managed to fix the headphones without having to replace the plug - sorry! If you like you could always mail them to me and I could do it for you I guess lol... probs cheaper to pay someone local though Quote
Hobberz Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 the reason I got them over the xd 53's is the replaceable cable, and the lack of hinges (which I always seem to kill)Nek Minit, Cable diesI might see if I can get somone to modify the cable to have a 3.5 female adapter near the tip, the if the cable dies I can just buy another cheapie and plug it in. Quote
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