CapFive Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 bootleg recording is an audio and/or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist or under other legal authority.[1] The process of making and distributing such recordings is known as bootlegging. A great many such recordings are simply copied and traded among fans of the artist without financial exchange, but some bootleggers are able to sell these rarities for profit, sometimes by adding professional-quality sound engineering and packaging to the raw material.Bootlegs can consist of recordings of live performances or material created in private or professional recording sessions. Changing technologies have had a great impact on the recording, distribution, and varying profitability of the underground industry. The copyrights for the song and the right to authorize recordings often reside with the artist, according to several international copyright treaties. The recording, trading and sale of bootlegs continues to thrive, however, even as artists and record companies attempt to provide "authorized" alternatives to satisfy the demand.The word "bootleg" originates from the practice of smuggling illicit items in the legs of tall boots, particularly the smuggling of alcohol during the American Prohibition era. The word, over time, has come to refer to any illegal or illicit product.[2] This term has become an umbrella term for illicit, unofficial, or unlicenced recordings, including vinyl LPs, bootleg silver CDs, or any other commercially sold bootlegged media or material.Some recordings' releases - while appearing to be official - may in fact be unofficial. Through crafty packaging and desktop publishing, even the layman can create official 'looking' CDs. In the 1990s, so-called "import" CDs were actual bootlegs made available in many legitimate music stores. Most of these imports were from Italy. The Italian bootleg operation was shut down in the late 1990s, but several companies still manufacture silver CDs. Japan still has many bootleg labels, such as Highland, Empress Valley, Beelzebub, Godfather, Tarantura, and Tdolz. These bootlegs are difficult for the layperson to find, but experienced collectors or the internet-savvy can find them easily.Most artists consider any release for which they do not receive royalties to be a bootleg. Some releases while they appear official, are in fact unlicenced pirated copies.[citation needed] This is often the case with artists whose recordings have either become public domain or whose original agreements did not include reissue royalties (which was a common occurrence before the 1960s).[citation needed]Many bootlegs consist of private or professional studio recordings distributed without the artist's involvement, including demos, works-in-progress or discarded material. These might be made from private recordings not meant to be widely shared, or from master recordings stolen or copied from an artist's home, a recording studio or the offices of a record label. A number of bootlegs originated with FM radio broadcasts of live or previously recorded live performances.However, the most common type is the live bootleg, or audience recording, which is created with sound recording equipment smuggled into a live concert. Many artists and most live venues prohibit this form of recording, but from the 1970s onwards the increased availability of portable technology made such bootlegging increasingly easy, and as this technology has improved so too has the general quality of these recordings.The alternate terms ROIO or RoIO, an acronym meaning "Recording of Indeterminate Origin", or "Recording of Independent Origin", and VOIO or VoIO, an acronym meaning "Video of Indeterminate Origin", or "Video of Independent Origin", arose among Pink Floyd collectors trying to clarify the differences between counterfeits, illegally made copies, live bootlegs, and "ROIOs", meaning recordings whose legal status was difficult or even impossible to determine.[citation needed] The term has spread beyond Pink Floyd fans but its recognition and usage depends largely on the individual community. It is also sometimes used to denote a Pink Floyd recording of any kind. Quote
CBG Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Lol, this is a big issue around the melbourne music scene, so much so that the owner of one the biggest DJ agencies and I came to blows yesterday over it Quote
CapFive Posted June 30, 2011 Author Posted June 30, 2011 wow how so?P.S i copied it from wikipedia but i did read it all Quote
LabRat Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I had this explained to me a little while back. So many different opinions about the differences between bootlegs, remixes and reworks Quote
lloydc Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Lol, this is a big issue around the melbourne music scene, so much so that the owner of one the biggest DJ agencies and I came to blows yesterday over itway to burn your bridges...tell me more Quote
CBG Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 It wasnt even my fault lol. Someone posted a Bingo plays bootleg, then a melbourne 'remix' of that bootleg. And the only audible difference was that it has a thicker bassline during the main section. I commented asking what the fuck is the difference in the two tracks etc. This guy must have been snooping, and then had a go at me on my facebook lol.I dont care anyway, that particular agency are *insert insult and comment suggesting they are low in quality here* anyway Quote
Gandy Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 i would like an brief summary on why melbourne seems to be a world of its own when it comes to EDM, being a lowly northerner i have no idea Quote
CBG Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 It's full of little shitbag teenagers with a copy of FL studio. that try to copy the bigger DJs, the bigger DJs have little respect for the established pro's and try to remix every fucking track out there. The worst thing is melbourne's crowds lap it up... it's like they've forgotten what good dance music is meant to sound like Quote
Gandy Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 oh wow, remind me never to approach a melbourne club booth haha +rep for expo Quote
imadje Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I had this explained to me a little while back. So many different opinions about the differences between bootlegs, remixes and reworksnot forgetting the "mash-up", "re-edit", or in live music the "cover" version.it is a massive grey area in djing but in the live music scene publishers get a simple payout which allows bands to cover songs live under the venue license. To release a cover they have to have permission and probably a contract that agrees to share income.I define bootlegs as "pirate copies" so are 100% illegal and probably funding terrorists.generally apart from "bootlegging" i think all djs should be encouraged to play with stuff (i.e. do re-edits, remixes, mash ups, re-workings etc) and play it out and let people enjoy their creativitiy, but if they start making cash or a rep from it they must in some way respect the original composer and share the wealth if there is any.If they dont they deserve to be sued for their theft of intellectual copyright IMO.however if the punters lap up any old shit like cbg says melbourne does... well then to me that means it's time to go underground again. The true headz will find/ follow the true sound and the best scenes are always born in the underground. Quote
JonnyB Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 my general rule.a remix - officialy done for a label or given rights by the producer.A bootleg - an un official remix, someone who has just taken the original/instrumental/acapella and made what sounds like a proper remix, but had no rights to do so, but isnt making money off it so its cool.an edit - someone just choping up an original track or putting a diffrent style drum beat behind it (e.g party rock anthem (swiss breaks edit)mashup - taking 2 tracks, and blending thm together Quote
Gandy Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 +rep johnny, i will be quoting that next time theres a debate! Quote
JonnyB Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 i dunno if thats how it actually goes, thats just how i catagorise it all. its my own rule, dunno how well it applies to the industry Quote
imadje Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 ^interesting cultural difference.bootleg just means pirate copy here so is 100% rude, i'll have to rem not to diss any of you for posting about your latest bootleg then! Quote
street Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 good post jonny, but it doesn't have to be only 2 tracks for a mash, you can have as many as you want. Quote
JonnyB Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 good post jonny, but it doesn't have to be only 2 tracks for a mash, you can have as many as you want.well yeah but you get the point haha Quote
Tomy Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 my general rule.a remix - officialy done for a label or given rights by the producer.A bootleg - an un official remix, someone who has just taken the original/instrumental/acapella and made what sounds like a proper remix, but had no rights to do so, but isnt making money off it so its cool.an edit - someone just choping up an original track or putting a diffrent style drum beat behind it (e.g party rock anthem (swiss breaks edit)mashup - taking 2 tracks, and blending thm togetherAgreed. i'd better change some shit on my soundcloud. hahaha Quote
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