johnyboy Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-DJs-should- ... -computers Quote
Cupe Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-DJs-should-play-vinyl-and-not-use-computersOver the past couple of years more and more DJs have converted to using computers to mix with. It's boring and should be outlawed from all serious clubs immediately.Ok if you're a wedding DJ and have to play shlock and 80s tunes and requests and cannot possibly haul around kilos of records or CDs then I can understand why computer DJing is for you; otherwise, stop it now. And I'll give you 3 good reasons why.Firstly, and most importantly, the sound quality is inferior. Using CDs is bad enough but using tiny MP3 etc files is terrible. There's a reason why MP3s are such small files, and that's because the alogrithm has 'taken out' a lot of the sound. On headphones you don't notice. In a club you do. Nothing sounds better than concord needles on a vinyl. The sound is fresh, organic and full. Especially for the lower frequencies of bass found commonly in techno and drum and bass. And furthermore, sound is transmitted nearly instantaneously through needles whereas there's often a lag with computers, particularly old computers with small rams.Secondly, it ruins the visual appeal. Nothing beats seeing a DJ cueing up the vinyl and dropping in the next tune in just the right place and really hearing it. Also watching a DJ show his or her mastery by scratching vinyl is mesmerizing. It makes the DJ a musician and an awesome spectacle. It's live and always original because no 2 mixes or scratches can ever be exactly the same. With a computer they can be and that is boring and not worth paying to watch. I hate DJs who use serato and so give the impression they are playing vinyl. Watch them carefully - they never change the vinyl. It's window dressing.And thirdly, computer mixing is often cheating. The computer programs have beat counters, analytics and even beat matching to do all the hard work for the DJ. Anybody can quickly sound as good as Carl Cox with some of the computer programs on the market, which is an insult to Carl Cox who is a god on the decks.Luckily British clubs are not falling for this second rate rubbish and the DJs lose respect for pulling out their apple computers. Unfortunately, in Tokyo it's becoming more and more common for DJs to bore the crowd with their heads stuck in their computer screens. Even Tokyo based DJs are using computers - I presume because they aren't competent with vinyl or are too lazy to bring their record bags. I saw DJ Marky in womb last year and he broke my heart when he played 99% of his set using serato. Holding a deck upside down and scratching is farcical and belongs in a circus and not on the dance floor. That same year and again in Womb in Tokyo, I saw Ed Rush and Optical use 2 CDs all night long. It was pretty much impossible to hear the mixes. We the consumers who fork out big money to see these 'stars' deserve a lot better.So if you want to be a DJ or take up mixing for a hobby then please buy decks and good needles and do it properly. Besides computers crash and then you'll look like a right twit while silence pervades the room while you re-boot.As a footnote, my mate saw LTJ Bukem in Argentina the other day. He played a vinyl set - not a CD or computer in sight. Good to see the pioneers still holding true to their roots. Quote
Cupe Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Just about snared an interview with LTJ Bukem but something failed between promo teams in the end Quote
SolDios Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 are controllers slightly an exception to this? wait, they seem to outlaw cdj's too, thats wierd.nothing wrong with playing with cdj's :/ Quote
JonnyB Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 to a vinyl enthusiest everything but vinyl isnt goodso controllers would not be a slight exception.Cdj's would be a slight excpetion because you still have the whole cue the track, beat match it etc etc it kind of looks like a vinyl set up, the 2 decks and a mixer. Quote
Jaz Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 nothing wrong with playing with cdj's :/then fuck the S4 buy some CDJ's Quote
Hobberz Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 nothing wrong with playing with cdj's :/then fuck the S4 buy some CDJ'sCdj's dont have sync.... Quote
andyman Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 nothing wrong with playing with cdj's :/then fuck the S4 buy some CDJ'sCdj's dont have sync....He spent all his money on lights. Quote
legunner Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 whoever wrote that article is an arrogant twat. if he is so happy with having things the original way then why doesnt he still live in a cave and ride a fuckin horse. Quote
dim Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Luckily British clubs are not falling for this second rate rubbish and the DJs lose respect for pulling out their apple computers. ^BOLLOCKS. he doesnt even mention DVS so how knowledgeable is the kent anyway. He prob sees a mac and thinks the dj is miming when he's using timecode vinyl.^^what karma said.also consider this:Why does one person use a tone of writing that sounds so important? 1)coz he doesnt listen to anyone elses POV and thus concludes he's the cleverest WHALE in the world.2)coz he wants to get more forum posts and hype surrounding him by commenting on a contentious issue in a sensational way. Media scum.-the author is one man with his own ideas and possibly a peer group who agree with him. The rest of the planet will continue to make up their own minds as usual.see sig. Quote
legunner Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Exactly right dim. The guy obviously has never used timecode. Because if he has he would realise how good it is and simply more practical. And what does he mean that the only time it is understandable to use a computer is for mobile djs who have to play different kinds of music.. it doesnt matter where you play unless your skrillex or feed me or one of them whales you will have requests and sometimes you will have to play them to keep the crowd happy. Quote
Gandy Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 whoever wrote that article is an arrogant twat. if he is so happy with having things the original way then why doesnt he still live in a cave and ride a fuckin horse.this, unless he does actually live in a cave with his horse lol Quote
dim Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 yer man,I guess he isnt a DJ.I mean LTJ BUKEM a Pioneer? Of drum n bass yes but de las soul use cdjs to do their live show now (inc scratching) and utah saints, stanton warriors, and many others use timecode with macs or bridge. Is his orignal post on a forum or anywhere where real people can leave feedback? If so I bet he's already been put in his place about a thousand times. Quote
legunner Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 whoever wrote that article is an arrogant twat. if he is so happy with having things the original way then why doesnt he still live in a cave and ride a fuckin horse.this, unless he does actually live in a cave with his horse lolimagine if he did haha some omish WHALE Quote
Jaz Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 ehh i dont agree with it but computer is for burning CD's or puting songs onto USB Quote
dim Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 or shoving up a trolls' arse perhaps djaz?haha, jst jks mate. Quote
SolDios Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 Why does that guy get on my nerves so much >_< Its driving me crazy for some odd reason. Quote
dim Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 ^ haha, i just noticed the article is 2 yrs old.left my own thoughts for the prick anyway. Quote
dim Posted June 20, 2011 Posted June 20, 2011 cheers boss, Did you add one under the name m?looked like the cut of your jib sir? Quote
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