GHB Epidemic.

[andyman]

I'm not sure how bad the situation is in other states, but Melbourne is awash with the horrible substance which is ruining our club scene.

This weekend, some dickhead has blown out out the front of one of my favorite clubs, which has already damaged it's repuatation.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6036885623

People need to realise that this a harmful substance, and if it keeps up, we'll eventually lose our scene all together.

/rant.

[Jaz]

looks serious but not that serious, no 1's really panicking, the paramedics are laid back as fuck, and some WHALE has the time and relaxedness to fuckin film it LOL

someone give me a run down on GHB? never heard of it

[eggssell]

its the date rape drug isnt it?

[eggssell]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid

someone might want to explain it in english though

[andyman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid

[eggssell]

winner

[CBG]

its been a problem for a while now dude. thats why trance energy doesnt come here anymore, so its been a problem for at least 2yrs id say

[Jaz]

wait wait wait...so let me get this straight...this WHALE date rape drugged himself?

What

A

Dumb

Kohnt

Whats he trying to do, pull of a "The Hangover" kind of weekend?

[andyman]

its been a problem for a while now dude. thats why trance energy doesnt come here anymore, so its been a problem for at least 2yrs id say

Yeah I know.

Just reading about it on the front page of our most popular newspaper made me super pissed off.

[Jaz]

Just started youtubeing it... looks like that "david after the dentist" WHALE has grown up

[CBG]

the date rap drug is most likely ketamine. ghb tastes like petrol

[awesome88]

i wouldn't really think of it as a date rape drug... but i could see how it could be used as one... one drop in a drink and you'll be fucked... and can't even taste it.

if you have ever heard of GBH, fanta, fantsay, liquid e... it's all GHB. The most dangerous part about it (if you get it clean, which is rare) is that there is a very fine line between getting high and overdose. Unlike E, where it will take a lot for you to actually "overdose", it can be a case of 1 drop gets you high, 2 or 3 close together will overdose, so people don't realise.

it tends to attract people because it is so strong, and relativley cheap, especially since you don't need much, and gives you all the euphoria etc. of E.

I haven't personally tried it, because i know it's never clean, always packed with really dangerous other chemicals, and has that find line between fun and overdose. I have however, had a fair bit of exposure to it and know people who have done it.

[CBG]

look at the cop just filming lol

[awesome88]

the date rap drug is most likely ketamine. ghb tastes like petrol

read this after i posted mine. Like i said, i have never tried it, but everyone i kow who has said it you put it in a drink, you can't taste it...

[CBG]

you carry around a 20ml bottle, about the size of a eye drops bottle. and a bottle of fanta or coke or whatever. Then you get a little syringe, pull out about 2-5mls and chuck it in the soft drink. theres about 1hrs worth right there.

its fucked because its cheap, its made out of industrial floor cleaner and YOU CANNOT DRINK ALCOHOL WITH IT. You will die otherwise

i know all this because i know heaps of ppl that use it and if you're a working dj, you just know about drugs lol

[andyman]

you carry around a 20ml bottle, about the size of a eye drops bottle. and a bottle of fanta or coke or whatever. Then you get a little syringe, pull out about 2-5mls and chuck it in the soft drink. theres about 1hrs worth right there.

That's pretty much it.

People that do too much (anywhere between 10-20mls) "blow out", which is what this twit has done.

I know a few people that use it, and don't condone it in any way.

It's cheap, nasty and bad news.

[Ravni]

not the best thing to be taking guys, from a chemical point of view

its piss easy to synthesise in a I am a fagget from a vast amount of diffrent starting materials, if u dont purify it of clean it up at all, it can have a shit load of impurities that prob harm u more than the drug,

nine times out of ten the initial starting material used in its synthesis is not clean, and hence the shit out there,

that being said its probably the case with most synthetic drugs made in the backyards of homes around australia, thats why its not worth it

[andyman]

Why can't people just stick to these:

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[andyman]

P.S. Sorry about the ridiculous image sizes

[Cupe]

dude

date rape is rohypnol (flunitrazepam)

GHB is gammahydroxybutyric

[Ravni]

thing with taking this shit and any of the others together is u get so fkd up u forget ur not allowed to drink alcohol and people tend to drink in those environments, and end up with two complications acute alcohol poisoning and o.d. on the drug

the reason for this is most drugs (not all) are metabolised by the same enzymes in your body as alcohol called the cytochrome p450 enzyme from the top of my head that enzyme does about 70 to 80% of ur bodys metabolisim, its in ur liver

thats if anyone is interested about this stuff

[eggssell]

dude

date rape is rohypnol (flunitrazepam)

GHB is gammahydroxybutyric

i only said that because wasnt it on all those cruise ship articles. plus this from GHB wiki

It is also used as an intoxicant (illegally in many jurisdictions) or as a date rape drug

[J0rdz]

i wouldn't really think of it as a date rape drug... but i could see how it could be used as one... one drop in a drink and you'll be fucked... and can't even taste it.

if you have ever heard of GBH, fanta, fantsay, liquid e... it's all GHB. The most dangerous part about it (if you get it clean, which is rare) is that there is a very fine line between getting high and overdose. Unlike E, where it will take a lot for you to actually "overdose", it can be a case of 1 drop gets you high, 2 or 3 close together will overdose, so people don't realise.

it tends to attract people because it is so strong, and relativley cheap, especially since you don't need much, and gives you all the euphoria etc. of E.

It's not THE date rape drug, that's Rohypnol in most cases. But, as awesome88 said, it has been used as one before due to the small doesage, tastelessness and effects it portrays.

It's taken in mills, in most cases using a dropper or plunger. The size of the dosage is where most users encounter trouble. Either they, or whoever is giving it to them, dont measure it out properly and they over dose. There's a really fine line between being high off this and completely blowing out.

Its effects in small doses are similar to being drunk on alcohol, just with less wobbliness. At higher doses you get euphoria, etc. Combining alcohol with it is dangerous and amplifies the effects.

It's got a pretty bad stigma behind it down in Melbourne due to all the overdoses and the type of people that take it, but in comparison it's really no "dirtier" than most of the other shit that's out there - pretty much everything to get on the street is cut and cooked with dangerous chemicals.

[Ravni]

you must remember a large majority of these drugs are synthesised by people who have little to no chemistry experience, thats the real scary thing about it.

they might have a defined process or a good recipie but chemistry is not baking a cake. Something so simple as changing the order of addition of starting materials, overheating during the synthesis, no rinsing implements all gengerate impurities and cross contamination.

Thats where it goes unsafe, then you cant quantify how impure the substance is so u dont really know how much impurities you have.

Quite frankly the guy who makes the drugs doesnt give two shits about how clean his product is as long as he can sell it.

thats why long term drug takers suffer from ulcers and extreme liver damage and renal damage, interesting to see in 20 yrs time the correlation of cancer to drug use, i think there probably is one, 90% of solvents are carcinogenic and constant ingestion of them must be harmful even in trace amounts.

i studied toxicology as well and knowing all this there is no way i would touch anything synthesised on the street, and from my experiences i try to take therapeutic drugs (eg aspirin, antibiotics) only if i really need it, nothing is perfect in this world nor is the commercial drugs we consume let alone what some junkie in a I am a fagget cooks up

[Cupe]

dude

date rape is rohypnol (flunitrazepam)

GHB is gammahydroxybutyric

i only said that because wasnt it on all those cruise ship articles. plus this from GHB wiki

It is also used as an intoxicant (illegally in many jurisdictions) or as a date rape drug

I said what I said @ DJaz's comment