SolDios Posted March 22, 2011 Author Posted March 22, 2011 ...furthermore:I personaly think its alrightNo, its fucking not. People that think this way are bringing our art form down. Wake up.So you're saying that you would happily pay good money to see a big name DJ play a pre-mixed CD?haha dont worry, the only time I would EVER consider doing it is with 2 songs that are ridiculously hard to mix e.g. "deathmetal and clasical music" or an absolutely once in a life time mix, and even then id just make pre mix tracks, fade them together one after the other and apply all kinds off effects and loops to make it sound completely different. but not something as low as one huge track, thats out thereoh and like I said in the cons, they paid you to play live, not play a cd/track (and it would be mega boring) so yes, you are right j0rdz, but your shooting the wrong bird and once again, I have not pre-mixed before, the only reason I brought this topic up was because I suspected anna lunoe of doing it Quote
J0rdz Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 ...furthermore:I personaly think its alrightNo, its fucking not. People that think this way are bringing our art form down. Wake up.So you're saying that you would happily pay good money to see a big name DJ play a pre-mixed CD?haha dont worry, the only time I would EVER consider doing it is with 2 songs that are ridiculously hard to mix e.g. "deathmetal and clasical music" or an absolutely once in a life time mix, and even then id just make pre mix tracks, fade them together one after the other and apply all kinds off effects and loops to make it sound completely different. but not something as low as one huge track, thats out thereand once again, I have not pre-mixed before, the only reason I brought this topic up was because I suspected anna lunoe of doing it I never accused you of pre-mixing - read what I wrote.My gripe was with you thinking it's an ok thing for a DJ to do - per the quote I included. Quote
lloydc Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 the only reason I brought this topic up was because I suspected anna lunoe of doing it really?thought she knew what she was doing behind the decks? Quote
Ravni Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 most of the guys who post on here might agree with me, when it come to beat matching and mixing you get to the point where it is second nature to do it and its not hard at all. the most important thing i think is picking the right tracks at the right time, this is what sets out good djs and excellent ones, the ability to read the crowd and tell a story and set a vibe maybe i go into to much depth and im a sucker for old skool but if ur mixes dont have groove and they dont flow like liquid then its less emotional. well my thought anyway im way way far away from doin this but ill get there someday ha ha Quote
SolDios Posted March 22, 2011 Author Posted March 22, 2011 the only reason I brought this topic up was because I suspected anna lunoe of doing it really?thought she knew what she was doing behind the decks?yeh :/ when ever it went to a birds eye view of her setup, only one of her pioneers indicated that it was working, even though I could hear more than one track being mixed, who knows, it might be a requirement at the bdo that you play pre mixed crap, so that way you dont stuff it up and make drunk dancing people angry:S Quote
LabRat Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 its a load of crap! im fairly sure one guy at the club i use to play at does it from time to time. ive seen him run off for a smoke and / or drink and ive noticed that he's put in a cd which had 2/3 tracks mixed together already... well dodgie. guys like that need to be shot in the face depending on the circumstances, I disagree.did you mean two thirds, or two or three tracks mixed together?like he had planned this. he had mixed into his new song, bailed, 2/3 tracks magically mixed in together, then he came back to continue his set playing as normal Quote
dim Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Music Producer: someone who uses software to produce musicDisc Jockey: someone who uses recorded music to entertain a crowd.Jedi Master: someone who produces mash-ups and remixes as stand-alone music and occasionally uses them in their own DJ sets.other: some lazy wanker using pre-mixed sets who thinks their own venerable presence and how he/she looks on stage is as important as the music, the connection with the crowd and the atmposhere. Closely related to acts using DAT instead of MPC and dex, vocalists using autotune, or any doll faced pop tart miming coz their so fuckin bz doing the dance routine. Its not music it's a total entertainment experience.BUT I ONLY WANT MUSIC!I didnt even finish reading the whole thread, and that's not just coz i gotta go work soon. Quote
LabRat Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Music Producer: someone who uses software to produce musicDisc Jockey: someone who uses recorded music to entertain a crowd.Jedi Master: someone who produces mash-ups and remixes as stand-alone music and occasionally uses them in their own DJ sets.other: some lazy wanker using pre-mixed sets who thinks their own venerable presence and how he/she looks on stage is as important as the music, the connection with the crowd and the atmposhere. Closely related to acts using DAT instead of MPC and dex, vocalists using autotune, or any doll faced pop tart miming coz their so fuckin bz doing the dance routine. Its not music it's a total entertainment experience.BUT I ONLY WANT MUSIC!I didnt even finish reading the whole thread, and that's not just coz i gotta go work soon.fair playrespect to the jedi master Quote
djscottvanrune Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 i have to admit i use some premix cds for background music before i start like from nine till ten then kick out of it to normal you know just shit like rnb and old top 40 and tunes you can burn early helps get the atmosphere in the venue but i agree how can you dj a night and play to the crowd you cant read a crowd and keep the dance floor pumping with premixed shit its a copout Quote
dim Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 i have to admit i use some premix cds for background music before i start like from nine till ten then kick out of it to normal you know just shit like rnb and old top 40 and tunes you can burn early helps get the atmosphere in the venue but i agree how can you dj a night and play to the crowd you cant read a crowd and keep the dance floor pumping with premixed shit its a copoutthere's no issue with that mate. if your set up but they only want background tunes for the beginning of the evening (maybe coz folk are eating or just arriving still) it's much better to play them through your rig than have some other club/bar system playing. You just end up with having to communicate that it's time to swap over systems otherwise. Quote
RichoKidd Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Paid to Play sonNot Paid to stand there with your Stiffy in your hand & coke up your nose Quote
Hobberz Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Not Paid to stand there with your Stiffy in your hand & coke up your noseJust such a job exist, if so please sign me up Quote
CDJbpm Posted April 20, 2011 Posted April 20, 2011 LOL at RichoKidd's comment!Its a massive rush mixing live and dropping a mix that sounds awesome. So I wouldn't pre-mix. Defeats the purchase of DJ'ing. Quote
SolDios Posted April 20, 2011 Author Posted April 20, 2011 Oh goodness gracious! someone is thread necromancing! Quote
Lurk6r Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 What about Automix? Specifically when your at a wedding, and they just wantTo hear the same 5 songs on repeat for 2 hours while their eating and I'm sobbing quietly in the fetal position in a nearby dark corner? Quote
lloydc Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 and I'm sobbing quietly in the fetal position in a nearby dark corner?ummmm??? Quote
J0rdz Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 What about Automix? Specifically when your at a wedding, and they just wantTo hear the same 5 songs on repeat for 2 hours while their eating and I'm sobbing quietly in the fetal position in a nearby dark corner?That's not called being a DJ. That's called being an over-priced Jukebox. Quote
legunner Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 but he can't help it if that's what the crowd want? Quote
dim Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 it's a tricky one ey?earlier i was talking about playing backing music during people eating etc at functions. If you werent there the venue would pipe music through from itunes playlists or compilation CDs but you feel like a fraud having all that kit set up and just letting it play through a playlist. You know that later you will rock it as you should but when guests are eating it's not really appropriate.I think the customer is right at paying functions, and if that's what they want thats what they should get.Once they want a party and def if in a club/bar venue there is no excuse for pre or auto mixing tho.Personally: i get bored letting playlists roll on so I often mix/cut during meals anyway. It's funny when you discover frank sinatra can be cut quite smooth with jack johnson! Quote
legunner Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 if you have a 4 hour set and nobody is there for the first 2 hours, don't bother mixing i say. Quote
Jaz Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 if you have a 4 hour set and nobody is there for the first 2 hours, don't bother mixing i say.i do it for fun though, not for people to listen...if there was no 1 there i would be trying risky shit that i dont have down pat so it doesnt matter if u fuck up Quote
andyman Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 if you have a 4 hour set and nobody is there for the first 2 hours, don't bother mixing i say.i do it for fun though, not for people to listen...if there was no 1 there i would be trying risky shit that i dont have down pat so it doesnt matter if u fuck up I agree.Pre mixing should be kept to drinks, not decks. Quote
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