Mix Transitions

[Jaz]

The thread for the beginners that can now beat match but need some idea's and tips on transitions from song to song when mixing (I Looked for a thread like this when i joined)

So all the Pro's n Veterans Add your tips/different ways/idea's :D

Only one's i can really add are your classic Fade in/out using either EQ's,Crossfade, volume Faders, or a high/low pass filter, all work relatively the same by taking either the bass,volume,or mid n highs (depending on which way you do it) from Deck A and then bringing it in on the next song on Deck B....

That and Using an Echo Effect with about a 16 bar echo of a word, or note, or the end of your song on Deck A, while its echoing bring in your song on Deck B

[Jaz]

come on lads

[pulsebeat]

yeahh i just beat match it then fade out the bass of deck a(im mixing deck B in)

then as soon as the beats kick in i fade out deck A

simple way of doing it and works every time

if you know your music like a pro you can start using loops to bring the song in and cross over the beats after a high( I Think thats what its called?)

i dont know terms i just know how to mix

[ill_spector]

im a fan of the filter, and i like the echo fade,

pretty much just looks for cool sections in songs where u can jam stuff in

[tubby]

one thing that is underrated is to practice with no eq's or fx, it forces you to think more about how the tracks go together.

and make sure you phrase match.

onthe filter, I like to bring in the new track with the high pass filter on, as I start fading out the old track kill the filter on the new, so it slams in the beat

[chrismak]

one thing that is underrated is to practice with no eq's or fx, it forces you to think more about how the tracks go together.

I think basic bass eq'ing may still be necessary so you get a better idea of how well the tracks go together.

I do agree that FX can distract the beginner from learning the fundamentals.

[street]

yeahh i just beat match it then fade out the bass of deck a(im mixing deck B in)

then as soon as the beats kick in i fade out deck A

I've been practicing with a technique similar to this but can't quite get it to sound that good.

Here's what I've been trying to transition with eachother for practice, by first slowly fading in channel B while gradually bringing up the bass to about the 9-10 o'clock position, then as soon as the beat kicks in on channel B, crank the bass to the 12 o'clock and at the same time bring the bass down on channel A. I'm having trouble with the volume though and trying to keep it at a constant level, as well as the amount of bass as it sounds a bit too trebley during the build.

[ChevChelios]

backspin???

everyone loves as good backspin

[JonnyB]

backsin with echo.....

[SourceRaver]

I'll have a go but some of these are pretty obvious:

Basic Mix (as described above)

Reduce the bass on the incomming track before bringing it in. Beat match and X-fade into the mix. At the appropriate time, increase the bass on the incomming track while decreasing the bass on the outgoing track. Complete the cross fade.

EQ Mix

Same as the above but reduce the bass, mid and high (or any combination) before fading in the incomming track. Good for long mixes.

EQ Fade Mix

Beat mix the incomming track and turn all the EQs down to nil. Shove the X-fader into the middle position (chances are you wont be able to hear the incomming track at all). At various points in the mix, swap EQs. At the end of the mix you should have all the EQs on the outgoing track turned all the way down.

[SourceRaver]

For the last mix, you may need to leave some EQ in so you can monitor the mix using your headphones. If you have want to show off, mostly reduce all the EQs on the outgoing track and then rest the side of your finger against the right side of all three EQ knobs. At the end of the transition, push your finger up the face of the mixer and all three knobs will turn anti clockwise at the same time effectively fading the track to nil.

'Intro Break' Mix:

A lot of trance tracks have a small break near the beginning of the track (ie between the intro and body). Set up a basic mix but do it before the 'intro break' and have the X-fader in the middle position. When the break starts, kill the bass in the outgoing track and slowly fade out the track over the course of the break itself.

Heres an example at about 7:19 in the following track:

LowFi Banging Trance Mix by SourceRaver

[SourceRaver]

Backspin:

Set up the mix to the point where you are about to normally fade out the outgoing track (ie X-fader in the middle, bass EQ turned down). At the correct time, quickly kill some of the trebble (and maybe some of the gain) and spin the record backward whilst turning of the record player off. After a bit of practise it should sound something like this:

http://sourceraver.somatika.net/Other/M ... %20Out.mp3

Removing some of the trebble is sometimes important as the screech of the backspin can be nerve shattering if too loud!

[SourceRaver]

Dead Stop:

I'll challenge the rest of the ADJF crew to see if they can figure this one out:

http://sourceraver.somatika.net/Other/M ... 20Stop.mp3

(This type of mix take a lot of practice and really good timing. I havnt used it in a while and am not entirely sure If I could do it again )

Have Fun!

[eggssell]

i thought from the title the deadstop would be the power down, but it wasnt. cant pick it. anywho top posts source! +rep.

i love how youve gone from garbo setup to a freakin top notch studio

[JonnyB]

yeah nice one source for going over in depth... + rep

[BeatLeSS]

backspin echo perfect for genre changes!

[lloydc]

i've gotta give this backspin echo thing a go

[Jaz]

How to do it on 400's?

[street]

How does this sound for a basic mix transition, aka the one sourceraver described?

Basic transition by Streetcleaner

[street]

Is there an alternative for the backspin echo technique on 350s?

[Hobberz]

How to do it on 400's?

Have the echo effect on your mixer going and just spin the platter backwards on the deck with the out going track.

Bit late, you prob figured it out

[Jaz]

yeh i found it sounds better with echo on mixer and roll effect on the players, then spin back quickly

[Hobberz]

Will have to check it out