Are we over here in OZ getting rip-off

[wazza]

I'm so pissed-off ...I was ringing around for a good price on a new Vestax pdx 3000 mk2 ....thay have been out in the us for about 4 weeks now

I'v been hanging out for a 3000 for 6 month now....but I put off buying one because I new the new 3000 mk2 was coming out soon

and I didn't want to pay over $1000 for a old model

so I ring everwhere ....& I was told it was going to be 5 to 6 more months before we see the 3000 mk2 here in OZ if ever

WTF...the US $$ is at 97c AUD...but we still paying two times more for all our d.j gear....the 3000 mk1 scratch are $ 1095 AUD over here... over in the US the price for the 3000 mk 1 scratch [ 110 /240 v model ] is under $ 600 USD ....fuck the new mk2 are $800 usd... that is stall $300 cheaper than the old model over here

it seems that we are always are get our d.j gear 5 to 6 month after the rest off the world and paying two times more for it

are we getting riped-off on price & are we just the dumping ground for all the old shit stock that don't sell around the world...????

[eggssell]

bit of both man. and its the same for everything.

you have to remember aussies are some of the highest paid people in the world and we have some of the highest insurance in the world.

so a simple thing like shipping, storage and distribution costs heaps!!

then you need to add the retailers costs and profit margin.

the only way aussie companies can sell for "cheap" (which equals equivalent to overseas) is to negotiate good wholesale deals with exporters overseas and buy very large bulk amounts OR negotiate good wholesale deals with importers here who have bought bulk from overseas.

[Jaz]

its just how it works man, with everything, if its not made here or china then your gonna pay threw the ass for it, because the government wacks a hefty import tax on it, then you have the Australia suppliers making a profit, then you have your DJ stores making a profit, it sucks

these days no matter what you pay for something, Divide the cost buy about 10 at least and thats how much it cost to make....i work for a major Flat pack Furniture Store, you know, bits of wood in a box with an allen key and screws, half hour later you have a bookcase, we sell bookcases that cost $5 to make, we buy them for $10, then sell them for $70

best thing you can do is contact Vestax themselfs and see what they can do for you, it may be a hassle but who knows, maybe getting 1 or 2 over just for you is easier then 10,000 for big Suppliers, n shit if u can get them cheap, get more then u need and make a small profit yourself on them bitches

[eggssell]

hmmm i think ppl have to get over the made in china thang. everything is made in china, korea, thailand and on a smaller basis singapore. i can guarantee you your pioneers are not made in europe djaz. its just a matter of whether they are mass manufactured in a non controlled factory. or mass manufactured by factory sanctioned by a bigger multinational who enforce some quality.

also unfortunately the norm is the manufacturer wont deal direct as it is too much admin. ive looked into importing heaps of shyte for retail. and its either some wont deal with those that dont have a physical shop (ie eretailer only) or they charge you rrp unless you order a sizeable amount. and rrp is usually more than what youll pay in the store

[CBG]

You cant get an XD for under $3000 here in aus, unless its on ebay or on sale.

In the us you can get them for $1500

[wazza]

thats my problem DJ az my friend ...

I'm off to the US at the end off the year...with a lot off $$$ to play with

I do want to buy here in OZ to help a d.j store in these hard times...

SO do I pay here in OZ knowing I'm getting fucked over on price

or do i buy in the us and save some $$$

why should I buy one here when I can get two over there for the same price

if someone in one off the d.j shop or one off you can give me a good reason why I should buy here in OZ it might change mind..but if not I will get them over there

[Jaz]

you basically gotta decide between a few pro's n cons

1.how much is 1 set of decks gonna matter to a DJ store, and is that worth you loosing Double your money

2.Is US worth the risk of having no warranty, it wont be Void but good luck getting it back there and fixed if something goes wrong ...

3. how much is the Tax n shit going to be when you bring it back...if its none or minor then it may be worth it, as its a very significant Discount from US (half)

[CBG]

i wouldnt feel too guilty about the aus thing. Retail is daylight robbery, just scumbags buying lots of shit for cheap, then selling it dearer to us... doesnt take a great deal of skill to do it either.

[crundyy]

just goto their warehouse and 5 finger discount all their shiznat.

[Jaz]

then he'll go to Jail and get 5 finger fisted

how ironic....

[CBG]

how do u get fisted without 5 fingers?

[Cupe]

underdeveloped deformed club hand

[Gandy]

underdeveloped deformed club hand

took the words right out of my mouth

[tubby]

make sure the us decks can handle the different power here. An adaptor is easy enough to carry around but a step down transformer is a pain.

we do get ripped off in many areas. I checked out the top end sony headphones when my wife got offered staff prices on them. Even at the discounted rate it was twice what I could get it delivered from US for. my home speakers retail for US$1295, here 2999. and then you come to cars....yes we'll make the road safer by taxing new, more efficient, more safe cars so they cost double the rest of the world.

You cannot simply blame the distance (we're no further from asia where most things are made), a lot is protectionist government policy, and a lot has to do with lazy consumers. Start buying from o/s and watch as our retailers evolve to compete

[eggssell]

im sure the taxes add a fair bit too it. but as i said you also have to add the salaries. i am pretty sure our wharfies get paid more than probably anywhere in the world except maybe some of those rich scandanavian countries.

same with our couriers.

i had friends in the US working for fast food joints and they were shocked at the difference between our minimum wage and the buckleys they were getting paid.

and thats just salaries, add kick backs to unions, insurance, local govt licenses etc. etc.

which is why local staff rates, or local cost prices for a retail store is still more than what you get overseas.

[eggssell]

oh yeah and i came across it last night. Pioneer DJ stuff is made in Malaysia.