Turntables VS CDJ

[callmeyo]

What should every Dj be able to play predominantly?

Is everything going to be cdj soon?

Or is serator and traktor saving Turntablism?

Personally I prefer Turntables but interested to see what you guys think every DJ should be able to play if they want to a career in DJ'ing.

(Apologies Cupe if a similar topic has been previously created)

[JonnyB]

haha man have we had some big theads on this topic, ill find you a link

edit. coudnt find it.

im not really too fused what people use. just so long as they arnt lieing to them selves.

if there is someone djing via a laptop, your not djing what so ever, your entertaining a crowd of people, your an entertainer.

if you want to be labelled a dj you should be able to mix with turntables beat matching yourself, read the crowd etc etc etc. in my view anyway.

vinyl V cdj.

Vinyl will always win. To me the everybody should be aiming to eventually becoming a vinyl mixer no mater where you started from. i plan on moving to vinyl when i can, cant wait!

[ill_spector]

turntables,

however, its good to know your way around a set of 1000's and a djm 800 for club purposes

[Skank]

wow im the first to say cdj i love my cdjs i started on vinyal then lost interest in djing because i couldnt afford to keep buying new tracks. so i switched to cdj and it all came together again, untill i bought serato which makes me wanna get turntables again........its a big circle

[Trip]

if there is someone djing via a laptop, your not djing what so ever, your entertaining a crowd of people, your an entertainer.

if you want to be labelled a dj you should be able to mix with turntables beat matching yourself, read the crowd etc etc etc. in my view anyway.

vinyl V cdj.

Vinyl will always win. To me the everybody should be aiming to eventually becoming a vinyl mixer no mater where you started from. i plan on moving to vinyl when i can, cant wait!

oh dude get off your high horse.

The method of DJing and medium its performed with has changed dramatically. You can stay in the dark ages and be one of those guys who validates himself by the weight of vinyl he carries to each gig. Or you can accept that things are different now.

I'll give you my background so you know.

Started out with CDJs - played those for 2.5 years. Used them in the club as well. Beatmatched manually and could handle a thousand strong crowd with no problems. Now I'm running a laptop with traktor pro, controlled by a Lemur and Xone 4D with Ableton live running in sync via MIDI clock.

Does that make me any less of a DJ? No.

Its a setup that works for me, and after years of playing and trying different things, I found something that suits my workflow.

At the end of the day, the standard club crowd doesnt give a shit whether you're hitting the sync button or dusting off your next record and fine tuning that pitch fader. They just wanna get their drink on and dance.

You say someone using a laptop isnt a dj what so ever, they're an entertainer. To me, i find that statement ridiculous. We all play music. We all keep that floor going and we all make sure the crowd loves the music. Who cares how its done.

Now I'm not saying I support the 13 year old who downloads a cracked copy of VDJ and plays 3 gigs of torrented music with a mouse. I'm saying that as long as you support the fundamentals, such as reading the crowd, track selection, physical presence and mixing techniques, then theres no reason why Vinyl should be considered superior to a laptop. Hell, using Serato with timecode vinyl is there for the purists and it saves having to carry crates in each night.

To me the everybody should be aiming to eventually becoming a vinyl mixer no mater where you started from. i plan on moving to vinyl when i can, cant wait!

Who the hell made you the authority on what people should be using? Theres so many possibilities these days that everyone has their own ways of doing things.

Rant over.

[Skank]

lol Trip we all have different opinions dude

[Trip]

gets me fired up man

[SourceRaver]

Have to agree with Trip.

If I was starting from scratch again and was aiming to play in clubs, I'd go out and buy some CDJ350's or better. Reasons are:

I suspect the all clubs will eventually have 1000's, 900's, or 2000's as their default setup

Not all clubs will have turntables

Not all clubs will have the back of the mixer accessable for you to hook up a DVS system and/or midi controller/laptop combination

Playing from disc will become the norm, and when Pioneer drops the price on their latest media players, then MP3 will take over as the dominant format.

I love vinyl...but its too expensive, heavy, competitive to buy.

[tubby]

as someone who uses pretty much all methods available, sometoimes in the same set but mostly just depending on my mood, there is no best, just better for you.

cdj's are ahead in general though, just as they are everywhere now. turntables, where they are there at all, are often neglected and abused as cd wallet tables

[callmeyo]

thanks boys. intersting. eventhough we have serato. cdj's still take the cake x

[JonnyB]

if there is someone djing via a laptop, your not djing what so ever, your entertaining a crowd of people, your an entertainer.

if you want to be labelled a dj you should be able to mix with turntables beat matching yourself, read the crowd etc etc etc. in my view anyway.

vinyl V cdj.

Vinyl will always win for me. To me everybody should be aiming to eventually becoming a vinyl mixer, no mater where you started from. i plan on moving to vinyl when i can, cant wait. ah ok now i see where you got the impression that i thought vinyl was more superior. i should of re read this and thought it through. i dont think everybody should aim at being on vinyl its just where id like to be myself .

oh dude get off your high horse. ...no.....i like it up here,,,,there is a nice breeze

The method of DJing and medium its performed with has changed dramatically. You can stay in the dark ages and be one of those guys who validates himself by the weight of vinyl he carries to each gig. Or you can accept that things are different now.

all ive seen from you is negativity. and by the look of your rep other people seem to think so as well. Im not on a high horse at all, i dont even have vinyl i was just voicing my opinion that i rate vinyl above all other forms of djing/entertaining in clubs mainly because its what i want to be doing and just because i rate it higher dosent mean that people that dont use vinyl are any lesser.

Djing is a form of entertaining mate, the first thing i got told when i started at clubs was 'remember you are here to entertain the crowd'. To me when you loose the discs, you no longer are a disc jockey, your an entertainer.

I'll give you my background so you know.

Started out with CDJs - played those for 2.5 years. Used them in the club as well. Beatmatched manually and could handle a thousand strong crowd with no problems. Now I'm running a laptop with traktor pro, controlled by a Lemur and Xone 4D with Ableton live running in sync via MIDI clock.

Does that make me any less of a DJ? No.Well as a DJ i think it does, as a performer and entertainer, Not as all, its probaly made you able to make more creative shows and what not.....but thats not what were talking about.

Its a setup that works for me, and after years of playing and trying different things, I found something that suits my workflow.

At the end of the day, the standard club crowd doesnt give a shit whether you're hitting the sync button or dusting off your next record and fine tuning that pitch fader. They just wanna get their drink on and dance. I couldnt agree more,

You say someone using a laptop isnt a dj what so ever, they're an entertainer. To me, i find that statement ridiculous. We all play music. We all keep that floor going and we all make sure the crowd loves the music. Who cares how its done. i dont care at all how its done either, id be more then happy to go out and have the whole nights listning be coming from a laptop, i just dont see somebody using a laptop as a DJ, maybe its my perception of what a DJ is, and my perception is exactly what the 2 words are, Disc Jockey

Now I'm not saying I support the 13 year old who downloads a cracked copy of VDJ and plays 3 gigs of torrented music with a mouse. I'm saying that as long as you support the fundamentals, such as reading the crowd, track selection, physical presence and mixing techniques, then theres no reason why Vinyl should be considered superior to a laptop. Hell, using Serato with timecode vinyl is there for the purists and it saves having to carry crates in each night.

To me the everybody should be aiming to eventually becoming a vinyl mixer no mater where you started from. i plan on moving to vinyl when i can, cant wait!

Who the hell made you the authority on what people should be using? Theres so many possibilities these days that everyone has their own ways of doing things.

No one, and i dont claim to be, its my opinion, and i started that in the first 2 words of that quote.....

Rant over.

you trip.

i think your taking my post the wrong way, it seems like the impression you had is that i was saying that people who use vinyl are more superiour to laptop users(and yes at 1 point when i started out, i did think this), all im saying is that there is a diffrence between them, and i see 1 as a DJ and 1 as a Entertainer, people who use a bit of everything i see as a mixture of both, which is what i am.

Proof read this one, hopefully i dont give the wrong impression this time

[CBG]

DJ= DISC Jockey /end thread

[Trip]

laptops have hard discs?

not to be a whiny bitch... but the term DJ is now used to refer to the dude in the booth at the club.

[CBG]

If I saw a 'DJ' running VDJ at a club.. I would walk out.

DVS use timecode... ableton live is a touchy one, good when used properly (Deadmau5, Speedy J, Sasha etc)

[JonnyB]

yeah yeah i know, its a term that can be thrown over anyone that plays EDM to a crowd. its just my personal understanding of the word that gets me into strife haha.

[DjDennis]

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[JonnyB]

quit deleting your damn comments dennis

[Cupe]

yea stop with that shit

in fact, i'm going to remove the ability to edit your shit once you've posted it

[JonnyB]

mmmm....i dont like that idea at all Cupe edit can be extremly helpfull, especially if you post information that isnt fixed, e.g information on a club night that may change location etc etc.

of course you could make another post....but that would leave the thread untidy

[Cupe]

ugh.

well dennis, stop doing it lolz

[JonnyB]

hahah

[JonnyB]

take the abilty away from just dennis...OR when ever dennis posts something someone should quote it imediatly

[Cupe]

lol, auto clone his posts under an admin account

[Trip]

I think Dennis is just getting his post count up.

This whole 'DJ' has caused more of a stir in recent times than ever before. Hell, on a road trip, the person with the ipod called the DJ.

At the end of the day, most DJs are going to be working for the same cause, and if they're passionate, then does it really matter what they're using?

I think the line between DJ and Live Performer has been blurred and we need to start realising that, and becoming accustomed to different methodologies.

[Cupe]

yea, when society allows singer/actor/songwriters and all that shit in 1, and it sells, how can you stop a kid with ipods being a dj

i mean seriously, paris fucking hilton has an album out