help with copyright for artists in a jam

[Tomy]

Hey guys seeing as it becoming a bigger issue for artists these days thought i would post up some useful links for when you get fucked over by a label, it'll happen.

http://www.apra-amcos.com.au/

this is your first stop. if your releasing music you should already be signed up with apra. get in touch with them and let them know whats happening they'll either pass you onto some one helpful or give you some advice.

http://www.artslaw.com.au/

shits starting to get serious if your talking to these guys. Go to the "Legal services" tab under there you'll find a legal advice section. head there. you can get mostly free advice from these guys or a small fee.

http://www.copyright.org.au/

Really good site to have a read though while you shit yourself about the next step & which country your going to fuck off to if it all goes pear shaped.

The Layer. Get a good one. I wish you luck.

p.s. no I'm not in the shit. just thought this might help some peeps.

[Tomy]

Also this link will put any questions any DJ will ever have.

please all read this then we can be done with the topic for a while

http://www.copyright.org.au/information ... 76/wp0277/

no harm in knowing your rights. hope this helped more than annoyed.

[DjDennis]

I will laugh when a heap of Djs are busted

[Tomy]

why is that dennis?

[DjDennis]

because I even posted whats happening and they laugh so - thats thier problem not mine

I give the info and people dont want to listen

then not my concern

I just laugh when the djs are busted

[Tomy]

no need to be a WHALE about it man. no one whats to see any one slapped with a big fine.

your doing a good thing by trying to help every one out. the more info every one has (epically the new kids on the block) the better. Some of those threads you've posted have some serious hits man, more people are reading that stuff than you think.

[DjDennis]

no thats why you gave me a bad rep as well - so i'll be a WHALE and laugh when someone gets busted then

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[Buck_Choi]

Good post. And as Tommy said dennis's stuff is good and has helped me and quite a few of others realise the reality and consequences of playing public and also what we as dj's can do to prevent action and follow the law

I shall plus rep both of you, for Dennis i think it's just your delivery which gets a lot of people annoyed but overall good content

Have a nice day

[Slippy]

LOL N1 bChoi

[Skank]

+rep nice post tomy boy

[Cupe]

dennis is such a troll

[Tomy]

I gave you neg. rep because of your aggressive and rude attitude towards every one.

[pulsebeat]

hardcore

dennis what happens when a guy just starts out doesnt know fuck all and sees you saying you hope people get slapped with a big fine

some people just cannot afford it

[DjDennis]

@Pulsebeat:

then they should be doing the right thing then...

if the Dj cant make sure that the club they are working at, isnt fully licenced correctly, then the Dj will also get busted.

so I say its both the thier fault so they both should get what comes to them, being Busted!

if they are that dumb and do NOT listen to the warnings, like what Tommy has posted here, as well as what I have shown, then it aint my concern....

[Skank]

it is in no way the responsibility of the dj to ensure they licensed venue they are playing music at has the required license i dont give a shit what you say everything will come back to the licensee

its like saying

a bartender comes into a venue to work and the cops give a fine for selling alcohol because the venues liquor licence has ran out

in a club hotel etc the dj is a middle man

[DjDennis]

lol Skank

have you been a bartender before

if you sell alcohol to a drunk person and the cops bust you BOTH the bartender and the club are Busted

same applies for selling booze to underage both get done

its the same with music - if you find the club is not licenced then the Dj will be done as well and it affects you as a Dj down the track

but hey not my concern do what you like

i'll sit back and watch all the djs that are lickly to be busted with even more targeted clubs real soon... (remember they are doing this to stop piracy - plain and simple)

[Skank]

i manage a night club

you completely miss understood what i was trying to say

if a venue doesnt have the required licenses to play music the fine does not transfer in anyway to the dj they are not employees of the venue

and as in my example

if a venue doesnt have the correct licenses to sell liquor and so on the bartender doesnt receive a fine its the employer eg licensee

your spot on with the RSA tho

[DjDennis]

whatever - all I am saying on this

everyone can do what they like busted or not

who cares, no one does anyway

[CBG]

agreed! sounds gd to me

[Buck_Choi]

ARIA REPRODUCTION LICENCE

FOR FORMAT SHIFTING BY DISC JOCKEYS

INFORMATION SHEET

What is this licence for and why do I need it?

The Copyright Act provides that the making of reproductions of copyright sound recordings must be licensed. This includes the reproduction of music from a CD or LP into electronic form (also called format shifting).

While the Copyright Act was amended in 2006 to permit format shifting for private and domestic use, format shifting for commercial purposes still requires a licence from the copyright owner or someone authorised by them.

If you are a professional DJ and you want to copy all your legitimately purchased CDs and LPs for the purpose of storing them in electronic form on a central hard drive database from which they can be played, you can now obtain a licence from ARIA which covers all sound recordings of ARIA licensors as listed on the ARIA website.

Also, as ARIA’s rights are non-exclusive, you also have the option of obtaining a licence to format shift sound recordings from each of the copyright owners directly rather than obtaining a licence from ARIA.

What does the licence permit?

The licence permits you, for its duration, to make copies of legitimately purchased music on one central hard drive and one back up hard drive for the purpose of providing DJ services.

Once you have maintained a licence for at least two years, you are permitted to keep the music copied during your licence period on your hard drive even if you cancel your licence. If you cancel your licence within two years, you must remove all copies of the music made under this licence from your central hard drive and your backup hard drive.

Please note that the ARIA licence does not grant you the right to remix or mix sound recordings. ARIA is unable to grant licences for that purpose and you would need to contact the copyright owners directly to obtain a licence.

Do I need this licence if I buy my music in electronic form?

This will depend on the terms and conditions of the supplier of the electronic form of music.

For example, suppliers such as iTunes and Bigpond music have terms and conditions on their website which indicate that music bought from those services can only be used for non-commercial, personal use. Even if you have legitimately purchased music from these services, you will still require a licence to use the reproduction for commercial purposes.

What about music that I have already put on my computer?

ARIA recognises that many DJs have already copied music onto their portable hard drives without an appropriate licence. By obtaining an ARIA licence, all those copies will be deemed to have been made under this licence as long you provide a report of these recordings.

How much is the licence fee?

The licence fee is a flat fee of $800 per annum plus GST, payable in equal quarterly instalments.

How long is the licence term?

Each licence will be for a minimum term of 1 year following which, you can cancel your licence by giving notice in which case your licence will terminate at the end of quarter after which you cancelled it. You will only be required to pay quarterly fees until the end of your licence period.

Do I have to report under this licence?

Yes, there are some basic reporting obligations under this licence including providing a list of tracks you have copied under this licence and a list of customers to whom you have supplied DJ services. You are required to provide your reports quarterly.

Do I require any other licences?

You will also be required to obtain a licence from AMCOS for the reproduction of the musical works. AMCOS can be contacted on (02) 9935 7900.

The reproduction licences offered by ARIA and AMCOS do not cover the public performance of sound recordings. Any public performance of sound recordings will still require a licence..

http://www.aria.com.au/documents/DJForm ... 030609.pdf

[CBG]

seriously, fuck aria, what low income DJ is gunna pay that much money, just so they can burn cds that they paid for, onto their pcs!? fuckin whales

[Buck_Choi]

so true. but you gottta do what you gotta do.. :S

[Skank]

CBG you hit the nail on the head, imo they should do somthing like the following

depending on your earning potential as a working dj the price of the licences should be different eg

if your only gunna do one gig a month why should you have to pay the same as the dj doing 5 gigs a night fri sat sun every week of the year?

so if they are serious about having djs pay for the licences they need to get serious on pricing

[DjDennis]

oh guys they are looking into it now but I wouldnt hold your breath

something worse is on the Horizon from what I have found out , so far

[Cupe]

DON'T LEAVE US HANGIN BRO