u/18 bedroom dj's want to play for our parties?

[db]

Send us a link to your stuff or upload here .Looking for new DJ talent willing to play 40 min sets during 6 hour parties for under 18's nights.

Initially we are offering you experience but due to the good numbers we are seeing there is paid work to be had in the future.

1.Please include a personal bio as well as a link to any of your social media pages.

2.If you have a problem with battling other DJ's live please outline the reasons why(eg: lack of experience,not your style, shy or whatever else everything will be deemed confidential.

3.Will you supply your own gear or do you prefer a house set.

4.Do you have transport or do you require pick up, if so what area will you be leaving from.

5.Parent or guardians ? Mention need for consent if required, or if you need a sponsor to set your guardians at ease with you playing the parties we can try help you guys and girls with that too.

Other than that hope to hear your stuff , your bio's should include your preferred style of play and music genre, do you smack the mic or do you wish to remain anonymous.

By the way there is a date coming up on the 15th or 16th of May which we may have places for , so get to it and we'll do our best to reply quickly as well.

Thanks

P.S if you don't feel your ready yet bookmark our details and hit us up when you are ready.

[Kodiak]

Send us a link to your stuff or upload here .Looking for new DJ talent willing to play 40 min sets during 6 hour parties for under 18's nights.

Initially we are offering you experience but due to the good numbers we are seeing there is paid work to be had in the future.

1.Please include a personal bio as well as a link to any of your social media pages.

2.If you have a problem with battling other DJ's live please outline the reasons why(eg: lack of experience,not your style, shy or whatever else everything will be deemed confidential.

3.Will you supply your own gear or do you prefer a house set.

4.Do you have transport or do you require pick up, if so what area will you be leaving from.

5.Parent or guardians ? Mention need for consent if required, or if you need a sponsor to set your guardians at ease with you playing the parties we can try help you guys and girls with that too.

Other than that hope to hear your stuff , your bio's should include your preferred style of play and music genre, do you smack the mic or do you wish to remain anonymous.

By the way there is a date coming up on the 15th or 16th of May which we may have places for , so get to it and we'll do our best to reply quickly as well.

Thanks

P.S if you don't feel your ready yet bookmark our details and hit us up when you are ready.

1. http://www.soundcloud.com/DJiamasickwhalemate

2. Only public battles I do is in the Octagon (and me missus when she drinks too much... for a 13 year old that bitch gets awfully mouthy on the turps)

3. I went into Store DJ the other day and asked to buy the latest Pioneer Nexus shit.... Told the WHALE there I was paying with experience points as that is what I get paid with. WHALE thought I was fucking crazy!

4. Yeah mate... I'm in central Queensland. When can I expect the limo to pick me up?

5. No worries... I can forge their signature

[SolDios]

Mate pay people for their time. Don't be a cheap shit and jerk people around. who says you wont just ditch em and get some others after the first night.

Show some backbone and actually pay your dj's. It's not like you're not earning anything from this.

[LabRat]

Don't wanna be the odd one out here but if (a big if) he's not getting anything out of it then not paying the djs is ok, but if it were me I'd want a drink card or something. Being under 18, maybe a voucher to jb or somewhere like that where $50 can get you a few things. Experience is one thing but like in the 1st post, can't buy shit being paid in experience. It's not a game

[db]

do you really think that there are parties and jobs for up and coming dj's? Here in Sydney some councils are starting to wake to the fact that kids need venues,if we don't put in some volunteer hours you can keep playing your bedroom.If there is any serious inquiries feel free to ignore the wanabees and drop us a line.

For those who think venues security staff permits and even guests appear out of the blue and with no $ outlay just keep trolling away maybe when your say 30 or 40 years old(even though that could be next week) you can think back and say if only we did more playing and less winging maybe Sydney/Australia could have a scene of DJ's to rival any artist block worldwide.Then again maybe $100 is more important, you know what the kids that just wanna play ,get in touch.

[OxyKon]

Hey buddy, I think people were getting the wrong idea from what you posted because it was lacking some information, you never actually stated in your original post that it was for Sydney djs, nor was there a link that people could get in contact with you or find out more information (unless your point of contact was via the forum).

It's best to be very clear with all the details as we sometimes have a lot of people trolling the forum throwing up information on gigs but never following through with what they're offering, not having a go just providing hopefully some helpful input.

[eggssell]

do you really think that there are parties and jobs for up and coming dj's? Here in Sydney some councils are starting to wake to the fact that kids need venues,if we don't put in some volunteer hours you can keep playing your bedroom.If there is any serious inquiries feel free to ignore the wanabees and drop us a line.

For those who think venues security staff permits and even guests appear out of the blue and with no $ outlay just keep trolling away maybe when your say 30 or 40 years old(even though that could be next week) you can think back and say if only we did more playing and less winging maybe Sydney/Australia could have a scene of DJ's to rival any artist block worldwide.Then again maybe $100 is more important, you know what the kids that just wanna play ,get in touch.

while understanding kodiaks and sols sentiment, they probably were a bit harsh in their response.

however db not sure if you actually had a look around on the site, but some of these djs around here are not bedroom and far from wanabees. sol and lab play around the scene, in fact lab is beatport certified

it is because of this they have this reaction. they make a living off this! EIDT: well maybe not make a living but you get what i mean. they make monies off this life

anyways turn the flames down a little bit including the existing members and just discuss, and not make assumptions about what db is trying to do.

for me i like the ideas of open decks for beginners wanting a next step up, and would never expect to get paid.

the payment to dj's is a business transaction. promoter is making money off guests, which requires venue and djs. hence dj should get some of that money.

beginner djs who just want the experience are not likely to bring in guests HENCE not contribute to the making of money.

on the other hand, using inexperienced dj's to make a larger margin by using cheaper options (beginners) i do not agree with.

[SolDios]

It's the money that gets me the most, I may have been a tad too strong with my original post. But I'm no wannabe, nor am I huge. I myself would never recommend ever doing gigs for free.

If you are making money and paying other services, such as security etc etc blablabla. You should pay your dj's fairly. It's not like there just throwing these hours around. An honest set's work deserves an honest sets pay. "Exposure" is not a currency that pays for fuel.

I've done events from club gigs, weddings, private party's and primary school disco's.

If a primary school can afford to pay a DJ for a fundraiser event, and still make money on top with a minimal entry fee, so can you.

[andyman]

It's the money that gets me the most, I may have been a tad too strong with my original post. But I'm no wannabe, nor am I huge. I myself would never recommend ever doing gigs for free.

If you are making money and paying other services, such as security etc etc blablabla. You should pay your dj's fairly. It's not like there just throwing these hours around. An honest set's work deserves an honest sets pay. "Exposure" is not a currency that pays for fuel.

I've done events from club gigs, weddings, private party's and primary school disco's.

If a primary school can afford to pay a DJ for a fundraiser event, and still make money on top with a minimal entry fee, so can you.

Myself and Mitch paid a handful of gigs for the exposure when we started and now we are getting regular paid gigs.

I think it's fair enough not to pay straight up, give people a go to build up their DJ resume and they can reap the rewards.

A janitor doesn't become a CEO in a day, so why should a DJ?

[OxyKon]

It's the money that gets me the most, I may have been a tad too strong with my original post. But I'm no wannabe, nor am I huge. I myself would never recommend ever doing gigs for free.

If you are making money and paying other services, such as security etc etc blablabla. You should pay your dj's fairly. It's not like there just throwing these hours around. An honest set's work deserves an honest sets pay. "Exposure" is not a currency that pays for fuel.

I've done events from club gigs, weddings, private party's and primary school disco's.

If a primary school can afford to pay a DJ for a fundraiser event, and still make money on top with a minimal entry fee, so can you.

So by this logic then that means I am also a sucker for doing all the gigs I have done then, because I've never been payed for any gig I have done or helped out with

You need to calm down sol, you're getting way too involved with this thread, you fired the 1st shots, time to back off now

[SolDios]

I stand by my points but whatever floats your boat.

[OxyKon]

No worries kid!

[Mitch]

I'm sure you've all done a gig for free at some stage in your life, so I'd ease up on this one guys.

OP was lacking some of the finer details, but it seems like a legit opportunity, so any of our younger members who are keen, give it a crack.

I wish you all the best with it

[LabRat]

I've done a few freebies and I'm not arguing for or against it. In my position now, I'll never play a free gig again unless it's legit for charity. Just my feels, no one needs to agree or disagree with me. I just put my comment out there with no need for debate. After reading the first 2 comments I felt that free gigs aren't so bad (as we've all done them) and wanted to express that, but just put in 2 cents to the thread. I've put on gigs and haven't been able to afford to properly pay djs but I've just thought of something to show my appreciation… that's all #notroll

[Cupe]

All bullshit aside,

Experience is the tits for someone that wants it, and this guy is offering it. There's no reason to take it if you don't want to.

The way this thread was first responded to was pretty bad for ADJF standards; don't let that sort of shit happen again.

As long as this service is designed to help up-and-comers and give younger, new DJs a spot to get their grounding, and get over the initial nerves it takes to play in front of a crowd for the first time, then I think it's a good fucking opportunity. AS LONG AS it supports them, and doesn't use them to draw a crowd AND an income, then pay none of it to the DJ.

Experience good.

Ripping off bad.

[db]

Please excuse the mistakes made in the initial post I was naively writing it with the assumption of goodwill, as far as being clear that is why I put the bullet points in because I also found it a tad "too easy" or vague. Personal messages to this account if you don't want to expose certain points would suit me best as if I use my email account I would most probably miss messages and logistically it would be a nightmare.

This has been a long time coming, in the past all halls police boys clubs RSL leagues clubs etc would back away as soon as they heard under 18's. Then when it came to liquor licenses and insurance for over 18's I was and still am not in a position to finance it( not that I don't want to risk it, I just don't have that few thousand on hand) so I got into music production and Pro tools has been helping Ableton kick my ass ever since. Now I have seen a crack in their armour so I have once again awakened my inner raver in the hope of providing the upcoming generation with entertainment that we took for granted. If anyone had told me that our scene would be in the current state 20 years ago I would have never believed it and fought them tooth and nail speaking of the growth that should have been made in this time. For all the ex disco heads to be sitting back complaining about noise and the type of music or trends that are around or that our streets are dangerous. What they need to ask is what is different , why is it violent (is it really anyway?) and I guarantee the answer would continually come back boredom and lack of options( as well as the wrong chemicals ,but that is also a thing of personal choice)

Getting back to the point at hand let me outline my situation.Tomorrow I will be attending appointments with venue operators who will be grilling me and will be looking for reasons to not give me the premises so I need all my ducks in a row. Even the date needs to be outlined so if I manage to secure a spot I would need to have the most important factors available with a decent amount of time at my disposal to organise the schedule. Hence my general call for DJ's on a DJ forum, so once again please excuse my initial posts lack of details but it is truly where the situation is at the moment and I do believe that with the current political climate we will be up and running eventually.

interested parties can expect a further update soon as I will be aiming for the unrealistic date of 16th or 17th May sure I could throw figures around and talk up a big game and have DJ's shuffling their days around and telling their peers that they have a gig and how much they think they will get paid etcetera , starting a never ending snowball of ifs and buts which will add up to lies if I can't swing a party and payment in the end , oh hang on I just went back to the beghinning , must be this too long don't read post (please be advised that when dealing with DB long drawn out jibberish may be a recurring theme)

Summary:

I need to have DJ's, AV equipment , staff, and more ready before I can commit to a date so please feel free to upload or PM me here if interested or you have any other questions or issues you need help with.

P.S. Thankyou mods and members for taking time out to stem the tide and bring this simple topic back under control

P.S.S My posting skills will get better

[LabRat]

i wish you all the best dude. i've set up events and the first one is always a pain in the ass. good luck!

[Cupe]

I think it's a good thing you're trying to do as long as you do it right.

Good luck, and if you need any tips or just want to shoot the shit or bounce ideas off other guys, feel free to post.

[OxyKon]

wish you all the best dude, if i was in the same city and didn't have such a shitty schedule i'd be hell down for helping out gigs like this

[AlexJ]

Im going to weigh in briefly here as I feel i have probably been to more u/18 events then all of you from both sides of the fence.

1) if you intend to make a profit on your event, pay your djs. Why? becasue they deserve exactly what you do. Doesnt matter if they're new, if your only doing your event for promo (ie spending every cent on making it awesome) then you can expect your djs to do the same. If thats what you intend to do (throw an awesome event) but suspect you'll make a profit given your set-up, expected sales, market research etc then tell that to your djs-they become invested in your event that way if it goes well they get paid. If things dont go well have an explanation why. kids just didnt show up isnt a reason. if your promo sucked or your venue wasnt big enough, small enough etc make sure you can give that as a reason to why the man isnt getting payed. The 'promo' is only valid if your event is successful and successful events have lots of people and make money. The fact that 'promo' is so hard to quantify makes things worse. If your event sucks then some young dj has spent hours preparing, practicing, travelling etc to rock up at your event to a set no one gives a damn about. now keep tell me how thats fair compensation...

2) U/18's dance events are built on the backs of hardworking residents who know how to play a crowd. Having a couple of newbies is fine give them the opening slots but if your expecting some dude with the perfect ableton mixtape to show up and play the headlining set of cdj 2000's. your dreamin. best way to kill an event? have a shit headliner. Any weekend warrior could tell you that.

3) top 40 sells tickets. Dont just look for djs who can mix the latest house. every dj can mix house, it requires a laptop and a sync button. If they cant mix lmfao into lil john. beyonce into kanye dont even bother. Kids come to party-because they know the headliner, their friends are going etc. they STAY because they know the music. They're teeny boppers. they've never been into a good club grooved to techno or lost their mind to a filthy dubstep/trap/electro drop. Most are just kids. Be clear on what your looking for. youll cut out alot of the BS. for you and for the people you are trying to hire. u/18s are the epitome of commercial, treating it like anything else is a mistake

I say these things because ive been the dj that played for promo at an event no one showed up too. Ive run an event that made capacity when presale wasnt even close to selling out. Dont make the mistake of thinking your people dont know whats going on as there is every chance they will turn around and sue you for breach of contract/misrepresentation/ any number of other hurdles that comes with having temp dj staff.

hope it goes well. im up in newcastle if your looking to hire a seasoned top 40 commercial resident dj.

[russell]

every dj can mix house, it requires a laptop and a sync button.

mix ~ sync = oxymoron

I find your statement offensive

[AlexJ]

every dj can mix house, it requires a laptop and a sync button.

mix ~ sync = oxymoron

I find your statement offensive

ok i do agree there is a difference but not to a punter in the crowd and not one that can generally be determined using soundcloud. so i do standby my statement to a degree.

[BeatLeSS]

I absolutely love your sentiment DB, and share your views mate. Everything is so $ driven now-a-days that it's hard to find that balance of where the love is.

Share your vision and those who share it will be there with you to the end mate. It seems that other members have taken this to the extreme end of the scale, as if you've got events and a high end income happening already.

You need to start somewhere and this is it, by putting on something. Fucking brilliant idea and I urge anyone who wants some experience to get on board. Grow with DB and he might take you places you'd have never imagined

[db]

AUSDJFORUMS LOOKS LIKE A COMMUNITY OF PASSIONATE MEMBERS ,DIFFERING VIEWS IS FINE JUST i THINK WE MAY HAVE COMPLETELY FKD THE DUK HERE ,IF i WAS AN UP AND COMER, BEDROOM DJ, OR JUST A YOUNGER MEMBER OF THIS FORUM i THINK i WOULD BE HESITANT TO SIGN UP TO THIS THREAD NOW.THERE IS NO ONE TO BLAME AND i WILL STILL KEEP THE OFFER OPEN(FOR THIS PARTY AND THE NEXT-i PREFER TO GIVE PEOPLE A GO BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IT ISN'T THE NORM) BUT LOOKS LIKE I'LL NEED TO BE A COCK AND ITUNES THE SHIT OUT OF VIRTUAL DJ.

ALL THE BEST EVERYONE TO THE YOUNGSTERS OR OLDER LATE BLOOMERS STILL DROP US A LINE HERE AT AUSDJFORUM.

TRY AGAIN SOON AS I GET THE SHIT HAPPENING.

PS SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS LOCK I TYPE BLIND,IE IT JUST SPILLS OUT ONTO THE KEYBOARD AND AT THE END I LOOK AT THE SCREEN.

[db]

September 18th is the day of reckoning for the under 18's event that I have been working on. Venues proved to be the main issue but at last we are in the door. Bedroom DJ's send me your stuff , payment will be negotiated on a case by case basis but as per previous posts if playing is your passion but you have nowhere to try out your stuff and pad your portfolio we are willing to hear your argument. When everything is printed will post screenshot of flyer , as usual it has been months in the making followed by a mad dash to the finish.

Even if you don't get to play on this date keep it in mind and come and have a look afterall if you are under 18 this is the place for you.