mattus123 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hey ladsI know there are no rules to this sort of thing, but was just wondering what is a generally safe rule for the frequency ranges of the various bass and drum components.Kick / Sub Bass / Bass / Snare / Tom / ClapCheers fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 well the numbers change every time but i can give you a rough example as to what i do.you want your sub to control the lower frequencies. sub bass i usually start cutting off around 30hz and boost up some mid low frequencies to give it some depth. the bass synths i would start around 100hz - 150hz (or more depending on the sound) to avoid phasing with the sub. synths i would cut off the frequencies that would clash with the subs or with other frequencies from other synths. the drums sections are the same idea. it all depends on the patch or sample you use which will determine what frequencies you will cut off or increase. hope it helps you out. just keep your ears open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 ah yea that helpsso the sub bass should actually be lower than the kick drum?and when u say cut the sub from 30Hz, does that mean that there really shouldnt be anything below 30hz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Not sure how handy this is but wotevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 i'd work from that chart to understand what things do. yeah, when i use cut off i mean nothing below that frequency. it works in opposite way too, high cut offs would mean nothing beyond the frequency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Is there a reason that you cut everything below 30? I would've thought one of the elements would've taken up that range (sub)Cheers for the chart, tis helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomy Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 any where below 30 you can't really hear. I've heard a few people say its more of a feeling that low and I've also heard around 70 is the punch in the chest spot with kicks etc. it was my understanding that anything below 30 your probably making the subs work way too hard. which means while they are trying to push out shit in that sub range then your really going to make them struggle to get out shit above that which can really mud up the mix then on top of that you cant hear it so there isn't much point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxfiend Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Is there a reason that you cut everything below 30? I would've thought one of the elements would've taken up that range (sub)Cheers for the chart, tis helpfulA very wise studio owner told me it was because sub 30hz can damage speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Ah that makes senseCheers guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewdc90 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The reason you tend to hi pass above 30 or 35 or even 40Hz is that those frequencies take up a lot of amplitude and you don't want to waste that on something you don't hear (as a rule of thumb lower frequencies tend to use more power or amplitude to be heard where as higher freqs not so much). 40Hz is a nice frequency for sub and kick notes but it's about as low as you really need to go (maybe drum and bass and dubstep basses go a bit lower just for sh!ts and giggles). Anything lower is going to make mastering your track and even mixing your track much harder for not much audible sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If you got a good EQ that can solo frequencies (I use fabfilter pro Q for example) I solo the sub frequencies and move the frequency dial further along until I can hear the sub tones and put my cutoff around there. Each patch is different but it's between 30Hz and 40Hz. If you can get an EQ that can solo frequencies it'll help you heaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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