SCRATCHING: Cross Fader vs Channel Fader

[krsjuan]

So I've been using the tables for about a week now, and I've found that I scratch alot better using the channel faders.....

Just wonder if this is normal and is it an acceptable way to scratch?

cheers, Kyle.

[CBG]

it can be done, but no not really lol. The channel fader is ussually used for a type of scratch where they fade out a transform or something. The crossfade is far more precise and sharp, do you have it on the right curve?

[eggssell]

hey. though i am still wett behind the years, but have watched crap loads of vids, plus have also been clubbing for years and seen/ heard heps....

a few factors.

the ability to have channel faders that cut.

if your faders can cut, then its the same as using the cross fader for scratches that need a cut.

also the scratch sound you want. ive seen people use the line faders on a long curve to have an echo effect (i.e. loud, medium, soft...). and a lot of transformer scratches are done on line faders.

[krsjuan]

my channel faders are set to " fast" which means they cut out when i hit the bottom, so yeah they work pretty much the same as the cross fader.

I find that when I use the crossfader, I do everything backwards. I cut it out when I want it in.... But if it's something that i gotta learn, I better just stick at it.

Just wondering if this is something that most beginners find??? I just automatically found it alot easier than using the crossfader...

cheers

[krsjuan]

ANOTHER QUESTION:

This probably sounds like a noob question, but I have watched heaps of scratching videos and noticed this.

Some DJs will slide the cross fader towards the turntable they want to cut out while some slide it towards the other turntable to cut out the sound.

Is there any difference? Is one way better than the other or is it just personal preference?

cheers

[CBG]

dude you can have it either way, they do this for crab scratching. Just aside either turntable to the opposite side that you normally would. and yeah, just keep trying mate, it'll be worth it.

And no you cant use a channel fader the same way as a crossfader, the curves just arent steep enough.

[krsjuan]

Thanks for the reply bro. I'm finding it heaps easier to cutting out the sound by sliding towards the turntable, so I'll stick to that.

[eggssell]

hey chris. you can use the channel fader like the cross fader assuming you channel fader has curve settings. this is found on al scrath mixers and some dj mixers. the settings are usually long fade, nothing to half way then fade, and cut in straight away.

i have the reloop iq2 which is listed as a dj mixer on dj warehouse which has curve settings for the channel fader, and a knob to do some additional fine tuning form long to cut.

kyle, the reversing of the cross fader is called hamster style. some people swear that it is faster on certain cuts, and preferred by a lot of turntablists. my mixer doesnt have that option (one of the few bad points of it)

EDIT: oh yeah, and a lot of mixers (and all scratch mixers) allow reversing of the cross fader to do hamster style, so you dont have to do a rewire.

[wazza]

here a tip........if your into scratching...

pull the crossfader out & throw it away & put a Innofader in it..

works in most mixers

I just put one in my Stanton SA 12 scratch mixer

the best $ 220 you will ever spend

http://www.innofader.com/

[krsjuan]

cheers for that eggssell.

My mixer has the reversal option, which reverses both the channel faders and the cross fader. I've found it near impossible scratching without it so I guess I'll stick to "hamster style"

Is hamster style popular? or do most just stick with the normal way?

[eggssell]

popular amongst turntablists. as i said a lot of people swear its faster to do certain tricks.

the master of them all q-bert does hamster. and im pretty sure a-trak and craze (both multi dmc champions) or at least one of them plays hamster.

[krsjuan]

sweet. I'm among some good company then.

good to know

[Cupe]

Check these out

http://www.ausdjforums.com/modules.php? ... ic&p=13752

[eggssell]

hmmm hope you didnt upload those caleupe, arent they from qberts diy video. i.e one you can buy

[krsjuan]

cheers for that. I've actually got all qberts vids now. They're a great help though especially as he hamster scratches aswell.

[Cupe]

hmmm hope you didnt upload those caleupe, arent they from qberts diy video. i.e one you can buy

they're all from youtube brah

i didn't upload anything, I'm not a pirate

[JonnyB]

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[Tomy]

cross fader and channel fader are 2 different techniques in my eyes, you can get totally different sounds out of each one.

with the cross faders the in the normal was to scratch then there is the Hamster way which is pretty much the same as riding a skateboard goofy or standard, sometimes a lefthanded thing but not always

[ChevChelios]

Wooo goofy ftw