legunner Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Hey dudes, some of my mates have told me that they write in ableton then when it's time to master they export everything into logic or reason because it has no brick wall limiter on the master channel?Is this true or are they spitting shit aha Quote
LabRat Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 It's true. What they'd do is export the project as individual stems and load it all into logic as audio. I know a lot of people who do that, I've done it from ableton to logic. Quote
Tomy Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 huh???? why not just put a limiter on the master? Quote
street Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 better yet, pay someone else to do it with fresh ears. Quote
legunner Posted February 5, 2013 Author Posted February 5, 2013 better yet, pay someone else to do it with fresh ears.This is what I thought would be the logical way but if you just wanna master at home on some bootlegs etc. or if you're strapped for cash etc. I already have logic (my bro has it) so it's no problem for me to export all the tracks into .wav's and master in logic. Quote
russell Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Ableton is fine for mastering in. Doesn't have as much headroom as logic. Pro Tools is another that is used often for mastering after production in ableton.I do agree though that final mastering should be done by a professional. Quote
legunner Posted February 5, 2013 Author Posted February 5, 2013 Ableton is fine for mastering in. Doesn't have as much headroom as logic. Pro Tools is another that is used often for mastering after production in ableton.I do agree though that final mastering should be done by a professional.Yeah for sure dude! Quote
LabRat Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 If you didn't want to pay someone or whatever, wouldn't 3rd party plugins like ozone (for example) be easier to work with rather than exporting all the time? Quote
russell Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 If you didn't want to pay someone or whatever, wouldn't 3rd party plugins like ozone (for example) be easier to work with rather than exporting all the time?you still need to know what your doing to master properly though... Quote
Tomy Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 better yet, pay someone else to do it with fresh ears.This is what I thought would be the logical way but if you just wanna master at home on some bootlegs etc. or if you're strapped for cash etc. I already have logic (my bro has it) so it's no problem for me to export all the tracks into .wav's and master in logic.there is a limiter plugin native to ableton and it even has a "brick wall" preset already done by ableton. Quote
LabRat Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 If you didn't want to pay someone or whatever, wouldn't 3rd party plugins like ozone (for example) be easier to work with rather than exporting all the time?you still need to know what your doing to master properly though...Yeah I get that. But basically what I'm asking, is ableton good enough to use having plugins like that? Quote
russell Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 If you didn't want to pay someone or whatever, wouldn't 3rd party plugins like ozone (for example) be easier to work with rather than exporting all the time?you still need to know what your doing to master properly though...Yeah I get that. But basically what I'm asking, is ableton good enough to use having plugins like that?yes. Quote
legunner Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 If you didn't want to pay someone or whatever, wouldn't 3rd party plugins like ozone (for example) be easier to work with rather than exporting all the time?you still need to know what your doing to master properly though...Yeah I get that. But basically what I'm asking, is ableton good enough to use having plugins like that?yes.Yeah it is for sure. My question was worded wrong i'm generally concerned in having more headroom to make the tracks louder without heading into the red. Most of the time i have no problem doing some home made mastering for friends but yeah. Quote
Tomy Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I will say though, logic can sound better a lot of the time. I'm trying to find more than just hear say to support the theory but so far I've found nothing. In saying that though I produce in ableton and I send away for mastering so no idea on the final product but I'm pretty sure it would be pro tools. I;ve never had any drama's with getting a good sound out of ableton either apart from when i first started serious production i noticed friends tracks on logic sound 10 times better.I also use mainly 3rd party plugin's and not native ableton stuff which again changes everything.found this too http://tarekith.com/sound-quality-live-versus-logic/ Quote
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