I've thought a lot about that whole looping with vinyl argument eggsell. And i've often wondered about learning to scratch with CDJ's. I'd honestly have to say that it's EASIER on Turntables than CDJ's to do that sort of thing, beat juggle, manual looping by spinback, etc. When that Turntable actually has a spinning platter, it's a LOT easier to get the feel for 1 beat, 2 beats, 4 beats, etc. as you literally have a sensual representation of it (touch) to relate. I've been covering up my BPM counters a lot lately and just doing my beatmatching by ear and simple movements of the pitch slider, not even knowing what % it's going up/down by, and I'd have to say i'm a lot better for it. But when it comes to scratching or doing cool platter tricks with the CDJ's i'm getting lost without that 'feel' of a beat to it. Just to throw a spanner in the works