and even amongst supporters of oz hip hop, i always hear yeah oz hip hop is soo much better than the all that watered down commoditised shit coming out of the US, because its original and different etc etc thats total bullshit. if you judging US hip hop by whats in the top ten then you barely scratching the surface. they have hip hop bands, they got old school two turntables and a microphone, they got forward thinking experimental hip hop, there is straight out mindless club hip hop, the varieties and styles are endless /rant