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ive got two stanton st-150's which i use w/ traktor scratch pro (because i have crap loads of electronic format music, and the only vinyl i have are my battle records, the entire beatles collection, and a whole bunch of 12" i collected b/w 87-90. i wonder if my kylie minogue locomotion 12" will be worth anything. it was a present i swear! ). i may have mentioned before i only use traktor in absolute mode (i.e. other than being a carriage for the mp3's and recording my sets, i dont use traktor for anything else), mainly because i am still focused on trying to learn how to mix then mess around with anything else. but having read about and seen people use relative mode and hot cues i am not anti using it. i also do have an mpd which i want to setup such that i can browse and load tracks without touching the keyboard, as well as use hot cues to drop samples or play some syncopated sounds over tracks. but again i am still at step 1 of learning so it gathers dust except every once and a while i put on the drum machine software that came with it and bash some beats on it. cbg, true i dont know the pro scene and im sure it would be frustrating to see a talentless dj get gigs.

the djs name adds nothing to the point. and id rather not slag a legend considering i cant beat match (yet, well so i hope). and chris thats exactly what i mean. the dj should have seen the crowd feeling a little bored and done something about it. im sure part of it was my personal music preference and i wasnt digging his tunes, but judging from the amount of people who decided to get a drink rather than dance, i wasnt the only one. and you could definitely feel the energy dying. so your saying that someone must do this using turntables (or I guess cdj's) to be a dj? take a very long winded example someone using an mpd, vci, an lpd8, kontrol X1 etc. with traktor has track A going. loads up track B hits auto sync, cues it back to where he wants to start it. then drops it in at the perfectly phrased point, and brings in just the highs using the internal EQ's, then while the two are perfectly laid over the top of each other. he loads track C, hits auto sync to track A. sets a loop of just the horns in track C and adds a reverb effect. waits until track A is in a breakdown then drops track C over the top. then before track A can come back fades it out, while sending the track C horns into an echo, then fades that out allowing track b to continue. is that not djing because no disc was being jockeyed? again i am not comparing. i mean ill take z-trip over girl talk any day of the week. not only because he kills it on the decks (and he uses it w/ a laptop by the way), but also because i personally think z-trip mixes are much better as opposed to some of the novelty of girltalk is nostalgia and picking the sample.

now i assume when we all saying laptop we talking software dj's not dvs dj's (else that pretty much wipes out the bulk of headliner dj's, and i would dare not say they aint dj's cuz they use serato or traktor scratch). so fair enuff i get what you all saying. and jonnyb i agree in that a dj needs to pick the music, still needs to know when to drop it, hence why i never indicated i support software/ hardware that could do this. in fact i said i see dj as a music selector hence the need to be able to do the skills above. i just dont see why turntable users would see cdj users as any less a dj, or cdj users seeing controllerists as any less a dj, and so on. and my opinion about someone able to rock a crowd was evident in the last event i went to. a veteran international dj played a perfect set in terms of beatmatching, phrase matching and was probably in key, but by 10 minutes into his set all hands were down, while just before that we were all raring to tear the roof off!. within 40 mins i had mates that were ready to sleep. at that point i would of easily taken a djtech tool guy on his vci with a midi fighter over this international any day if that guy could keep the vibe going. in my opinion despite this internationals perfect dj technique he had lost what it meant to be a dj. but hey all matter of opinion right.

hey man nice track. you fer real, yeah ill buy it. liking the your garage stuff. intro was good. i didnt get tired of hats but i got tired of the panning effect (or maybe its a pass filter). a couple times alright but did notice it. first drop was really good, sets upbeat tone of the track. liking the melody (the chordy bits),esp change up at 1.54. this track has a sense of urgency to it. like the looming eerie sound of the second half into a very menacing endng. not muh to really add, another good track. now this more uptempo. on couple of listens, still not wearing out maybe from it having two distinct halves with percussive similarities. keep us posted on its release!

but doesnt that mean you are saying half the peeps here aint dj's because they cant/ dont use turnies? i have turnies but i am definitely no dj compared to others on here. but like you said its all a matter of opinion that i think can be argued till the sun rises but will never get solved. like mac or pc, star trek or star wars, nintendo or sega. oh wait that one was answered where are you now sega fan boys!! nintendo 4 life

dj armed, so you saying that controllerist who can pick the right track to drop in, and drop it in at the right moment, as well as make use of effects, cuts and live sampling have no skill?? dont get me wrong, i am no way comparing a freshie controllerist with a veteran who uses a turnie and saying is one better then the other. i mean luke was not a better jedi then obi wan, but gven the right tools he blew up the death star! what i am saying is a dj is a music selector. has been for a longtime so i think for controllerists who mix that way are djs. deadmus distinguishes himself i believe because he feels he is making music live, as opposed to seecting music

hey man welcome let us know how ya go with the mixer huh

if sound coming thru fine, try djarmed or mines advice as it could be just the assigning of channels.

hmmm this one is a hard one. i guess its what you perceive a dj to be. if its driving a journey via music then surely the medium doesnt matter. i mean people using a laptop or controller with traktor or ableton live doesnt necessarily have to beatmatch. and if they can put on a rocking set/mixtape, is that not djing? of course playing out live with a premade set is not playing out as a dj, because playing out needs to involve reading the crowd. but if you do the above on the fly, even without beatmatching then to me that is still djing. and im sure ive said it here before, i would rather go to a place where a controllerist rocks it then go somewhere where the person is using two turntables, a 2 channel analogue mixer with a seperate effects unit who can beatmatch like a pro but can't keep a room vibing. of course the other side is, if djing is like a martial arts where techniques are to be learned and passed on from gen to gen with the only change being the music and the crowds. then yeah putting that on a device does take away from the art of djing. but doesnt any advancement? wasnt putting cue buttons on a cdj already allowing a larger number of people to get into djing? there was a time when dj's of my time were saying the same thing about anyone who dared bring out a cdj at our parties. personally im not fussed. its not the tools its the person. and is it really that bad having heaps of people interested in getting in the game?? more people to the forum! ha ha ha.

EDIT: doh! beaten....stupid two finger typing! hey man welcome (go introduce yer self). not sure if i can help as i dont use that mixer but had a browse on the behringer site. in terms of cross fade. just on top of the cross fader there is an assign A knob, and an Assign B knob. This can be changed to be any of the channels 1-4. Just set it so what you want on the left is the channel assigned on the A-knob; and the channel for the right is assigned on the b knob. in terms of headphone monitoring, about half way down there are buttons under the title "Monitor ???". try using those to switch on/ off what is coming out the headphones. Again I dont have this mixer or have never used it. one of the other hardware peeps (sourceraver or wazza) will hop in with the knowledge if my thinkings are wrong.

kid cudi - i do my thing this was a leaked track about a month ago. i killed it back then but forgot about it. played it twice now. cudi with his stoner drawl again, this time w/ snoop who shows he still gots it (much better than their previous collabo the tree, which was pretty boring). lovin this track. cudi kills on hooks or rhyming, and when he does bridges theyre the best.

ztrip is the man. i loved the gig guide descript. he does what girl talk does but with vinyl. one of his early mixes with emile (i think bwest friends, or it could have been the other one) is one of my fave mixes of all time!

hey mann

heyup welcome

oh yeah forgot one (though im sure i mentioned it here somewhere before). forgot all about it then a track just came on. Light Year - Night Vision EP its got about four tracks and it rocks.

final one and then its prob me Pablo Calamari - Think About you Louis La Roche - Prick Stick now all of the ones i mentioned arent probably true disco except malente and the discotexas ep, but they all verge on that disco-y sound with a hint of either electro or house

malente - i like it (riva starr snatch mix. bit old now but still rocks) justin faust - holdin' on (nightriders remix) justin faust - witty (a little bit more low tempo) ou est le swimming pool - dance the way i feel (drill club remix) and jfk & st mandrew - face pump (blende remix) , not quite disco but maybe a good linker to jacking house as it does have sample ladened over a disco-y drum beat with some keys

Classixx - I'll get you (Cassian's I'll get yewwww mix) Evil Nine - No Manners (Dannoso remix) Flight Facilities - Crave you (cassian remix)

Cassian - Friday Night EP - all 3 tracks (i like friday night the best) Discotexas Forbidden Cuts Vol 1 EP (also look up other Moullinex tracks) Dustin Hulton & DJ Icon - Welcome to My dancefloor (i like the wireless mice remix) Swick - Grow Up (Cassian Remix) thats off the top of my head (ha ha actually from a previous post). let me plug in my ipod into a pc and ill keep updating. at work and i do all my playlists in traktor so can't easily see what ive chucked in the disco bin at home.

do you mean auto bpm reading, or auto beatmatching. if using vinyl you can't use the auto beatmatching because of turntable flutter. the sync button itself won't lock.

Douster - Punani (Arcade Mix) traaaackkkkkkk

i was working on editing footage from a trip to japan and after prob a good 3 days work my hard drive stopped spinning. took it to the place i bought it as it had only been 3 months, and they just gave me a newer, faster ones. but not my 3 days of work you bastards!! the place was dodgy as, it took 6 monthsto get a proper invoice, and it was only after I emailed a newspaper CCing the company (which the paper printed but without the company name so it was dumb). basically i hand picked the parts to tailor make the pc into a movie editing box, and we based it on one of their pre-sold models plusing and minusing things. but the invoice i got didnt have the parts i chose but was the correct amount. the company thought who cares, but i said wait a minute what if i need a repair (which like the hard drive i did!). place is dead now but i think have online presence.

cool ill check it. yeah i was figuring it verged on fidget (in the use of cut up samples and wonk) but a bit more traditional house beat (in the chicago/ detroit vein).

and if you wanted to learn how to do the jacking dance move here is a tutorial it looks more normal by the end when there is music trust.

okay just to make sure i was on the right track i wikid it and it only talks about a dance style that came from chicago house and went on to influence rhythm nation (janet jackson) and vogue (madonna)?? but listening to above it sounds like a standard house beat, then layed over with very cut up almost syncopated samples, and breaks are very soulful. i know the tack name didnt have to have jack in it, but the reason for the search was the first track that came to mind was amp jackers - jackin the disco beat (ive got the dylan holshausen mix) and the other one was Justin James - Make That Ass jack (ive got the house of cardz mix).this is an awesome track and prob was one ofmy faves for a while. in fact i like a lot of justin james. i gots others which i may post as they play. dont currently have a bin for this genre so would have to digg thru my house one.