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Hey guys looking to buy CDJ 900 x2 and DJM800 off a mate. He bought them September last year and I was just wondering how much that would all be worth and what a good price be? Thanks Ps they were bought second hand for 3000. They were brand new 3 months prior to my mate buying them. . - now Free

i think he means big jumps in key in essence it depends entirely who your audience is. 9/10 when you are playing the 'bangers' most of the punters in the room could give a shit about key. while mixing in key generally helps produce a nice fluid mix its not always essential. while you still might not be mixing in key, a mix can still be exceptional. good skills can-to a degree-make up for poor track selection. at the end of the day there have been enough 'bangers' produced to establish a relative key gradient amongst popular tracks in edm. i use the term 'bangers' in quotes due to the subjective nature of the term. to an educated crowd, a great track produced by someone not many people have heard of can be pretty much the greatest, best, most fantastic (which ever way you wish to describe it) track in the world. because it is appealing to the culture and values of the crowd. This is obvious when you (for example) make your way into one of the many cruisey bars and bistros where 1 dj in the corner is running some deep house tunes that no one has ever heard of and yet set an unbelievable vibe. while the tracks do not meet the necessary convention of 'popular' this doesnt stop the dj from doing his job. that is the end of my point of 'bangers' back to key. the reason nobody cares about the big key jumps that often occur when one poorly prepared dj jumps from one 'banger' to the next is that for that crowd simply knowing the song is enough. You simply don't here the big club 'bangers' being played in areas without alcohol because that is part of the environment, the scene, the right setup for those tracks, to be screamed and shouted by a bunch of pis-pot teens still halfway through their 3rd cruiser at 2am. and to be honest, even for the learnered few when you've had a few to drink you dont really care that much because THAT guy who feels more obliged to sit there and point out poor music choices, or sloppy mixing skills is missing the point of being in that environment in which he openly critiques-to have a good time. If sitting there all night and doing that is your idea of a good time, each to their own but you would fall in the minority. i guarentee it. at the end of the day, as a dj, you are there to please the crowd. THIS IS YOUR JOB. while you also want to have a good time, generally you are paid to be behind the decks (or if your not, then your representing yourself and misrepresent yourself with poor skills is to your downfall) so you are on somebody elses time. do your job or you will quickly find yourself out of one in this business. Most of the time, your job is a to please the crowd of punters who just want to relax and have some fun, provide that and then worry about if your mix of 'bangers' where in key later. if your attending a dj comp where they are actively judging your skills then feel free to flex your selective muscle and internet/cd/record store searching prowess. Remember your crowd, who you are trying to please, what you want the mix to achieve and you wont go too wrong. mixing in key helps, but picking the right song for the room comes first everytime /walloftext alexj out Totally agree with this, exactly what i thought!! Thanks everyone for replying, really helpful stuff!!!

For a set to flow nice you mix in key, right? I was just wondering if this concept still applies to bangers... It doesn't seem to me that there is much of a problem when mixing keys with big gaps in between. What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks guys, ill probably get onto mixed in key when i find it necessary. Helped a lot though!!!!

Hey guys, For the moment I dont know what to buy an external software application for detecting keys. I therefore am using Rekordbox to analyse the keys however I'm doubting the accuracy as it is changing keys of songs bought on Beatport, sometimes only slightly and sometimes 2 notes. Does anyone know how accurate rekordbox is and also how to write the key info into the name of the song automatically? Thanks

awesome, that really cleared things up!! thanks

Totally agree with both of you about using your ear. However, I do like to know more of the technical stuff, so thanks for the info!!!

Hey guys, I was just wondering about the tempo range of on the CDJ and the accuracy that different tempo ranges give. For example if we use the tempo range by default +/- 10. The song playing is 128bpm however the song you are playing next is 127, do you raise the tempo by +0.80% to get the most accurate tempo match to 128bpm. I was told a little tip that when changing per 1 bpm look at the percentage change, and make sure its a factor of 8. EXAMPLE: 127bpm to 129bpm is +1.6% and this seems to be very accurate, however if we use a tempo range of +/-6 does the percent per bpm change? I hope this makes some sense.. Its very difficult to explain without decks in front of you!! Thanks

thanks a lot guys really helpful haha yep,, i think ill consider the bar idea

Hey guys, just put a mix up. was wondering if the transitioning i did between songs is the most common way ? http://www.soundcloud.com/pa1234/20-minute-mix

Hey so, do you use just a normal set up or 4decks and 2 mixers? And yeah so we where thinking maybe doing 2 or 1 song each and while the other one mixes in the other does effects etc , is that how you guys do it?

OKay awesome, thanks.

So if we go 4 x 2 is it still 2 tunes each. Do we have to signal to each other saying I'm mixing it next or? How did you do it?

Heys guys, I was just wondering if aany of you DJ with someone else. My mate and I will be DJing with eachother occasionally and I want to know what the best way to do it is? Thanks