hey thanks for the interest but since then ive realized they wouldn't really be suited for the application anyway so i sold them in a cheap car box i whipped up and bought myself a pair of VFM 18" woofers, a behringer epx4000 amp and a dbx driverack pa to get the ball rolling now ive just got to decide on what box to make for them to keep the size on the low side. i wanted to make 2 boxes similar to the cubo 18 but sixe is a bit of an issue