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Np, by wavelengths do you mean like the view of the wave form being played like in your first post of this thread?? If thats what you mean then FL does do that. Theres a seperate section above the pattern section that you put automation and wave forms (you slice and stretch wave froms to your tempo, make loops and make cool stutter effects). I use it more than the patterns section, I only really use the patterns for drums. As for ableton, i only really used the manual thats in it, though i'm still in the process of learing it properly. Drew.

Sweet, yeah now that i've listened properly to the original i can see that. FL is pretty good imo. It does a lot more than most people give it credit for. Thats what i use atm, I've got reason 4 and ableton 8 but i like FL a tad better. It really doesn't do that much less than ableton if you know how to use everything. I don't like reason that much though, it's synth's are very good and they make some really nice sounds but i don't use the program for much else, it's just so useless compared with ableton and FL studio. The best way i've found to get into producing is remxing a song from one genre to another (like old 80's music to new house or something along those lines). It still takes a bit of work but it's also a lot easier than making songs from scratch. Drew.

Yes a good sound card is a big one. You should also look at an additional hard drive if you plan on doing any real production or recording. The reason for this is that you can have your opperating system running on one hard drive and record independently on the other. Anyone who is properly into production and remixing will do this. As for the price, it seems a tad expensive, have you looked on online computer stores? or thought about buying the parts individually and building the computer yourself, it's alot cheaper doing it that way. Hope this helps, Drew.

It sounds pretty good though it seems (to me anyway) reasonbly similar to the original (I don't really know the original that well, just checked it on youtube then). What did you do to it and what program did you use? Drew.

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I've just finished a new track, it was influenced by alot of deadmau5 stuff, hope you enjoy. I've also made a few changes to my thiller remix. Check it, Drew. http://www.myspace.com/djsynx

Thanks man.

Thanks for that Tomy. I've made a few changes with the compressor that i used and turned down the hats and it's seems less busy. I'll upload the new version and post a link when i get a chance. Thanks, Drew.

Yeah i plan on getting a trigger finger or a korg padKONTROL when i get some money together. I was also thinking of working a synth into the whole setup (a Korg R3) and see how that goes. It's probably more like a one man band thing then rather than a dj but it would have endless possibilities.

No i'm not against cdj's at all i just think that there's more that cam done than just spining. But i guess that most dj's don't want do too much more which in that case cdj's would be best. I've been using torq as thats what comes with the xponent and it does some of what i want to do but i will look in serato. Thanks, Drew.

I only used cdj's a little (my mates a dj and i've used his gear a few times at parties and whatnot) but as far as playing in clubs and using my own gear i'm pretty new at that. I really just wanted to know why midi hasn't gone mainstream and i guess it's all about what is fun for you and what you want to do as far as mixing. Just spining tracks with midi is pretty boring compared with spining with cdjs'. though i think i'm more on the producer side than dj side so i'd rather use midi and do live remixes rather than just spin tracks. I want to do more like what daft punk do (i think you could almost call them midi DJ's) and a 5000 dollar pioneer setup isn't going to help me do that. Thanks, Drew.

Sorry if i offened you in my post, i was just trying to find some answers. I can change my username if it annoys you. Drew. Hey I said sorry dude. Don't take the easy road out. You will regret it. It's bloody satisfying to wrestle with the tempo of two songs and bring them together with your own hands and as you said before, the industry standard is still a mixer 2 CDJs and/or turntables. So stick with that, if you plan to work your way up anyway. CBG..you were so close to getting Flame buy me if it was not for second post to lable all software d.j as try-hards want-to-be's who have not taken the hard road is in my eyes bill-shit @synx use what feels right for you Thanks man, thats all i really wanted to hear. Drew.

I'm not intending on taking the easy road out. I've used a 5000 dollar pioneer steup before (2 CDJ 1000 MK3 and an 800 mixer) and i was beat matching (a few pretty nice fades and a few crappy ones), I got a good taste of what it's like using cdj's and it was a lot of fun. But so is doing live remixes of songs with midi stuff(not just two tracks playing at the same time but the sort of stuff you'd do in reason or fruity loops but live). After the replies i've gotten back on this thread i'm no longer gunna use the sync features or wave form displays when mixing and see how i go. Thanks for your replies, Drew.

Sorry if i offened you in my post, i was just trying to find some answers. I can change my username if it annoys you. Drew.

Np Tomy, Thanks fo your input. I've been reading up a bit more and it seems that most people on djforums seem to think that midi is great for getting into djing as it's cheap and a lot easier than cdj's and vynl. I think i'll wait till i have and can properly use cdj's before i play anyway too major.

I've been looking through djforums and have noticed how the mainstream equipment of most dj's is either a pair cdj's or turntables and a mixer which requires quite a bit of work to do the similar things to what software can already flawlessly do (beat matching, working out tempo). I was wondering why most people still use cdj's instead of an xponent or vestrax vci 300 that can do a decent amount more as far as mixing. Is it the simple matter of the skill needed to beat match or the fact that thats what they are used to or that they have spent over 4 grand for the setup that they have?? The first thing i bought when i got 'into' djing was a M-Audio Xponent (which may or may not have been the right choice) as when i researched everything in dj stores and the forums it seemed lightyears ahead of the cdj's and vynl. It works out the tempo, can beat match (which i haven't been using lately), can change speed of the song without affecting pitch (very useful), and has 5 quick que points which makes it like an mpc when using mp3's. It has awsome effects, 16 cell sampler built in to the program etc..... The cdjs and (obviously) vynl don't do any of these things (as far as i know). I'm just wondering if i'm missing out on something major in using a midi controller and software as opposed to using cdj's. Or is it basically becuase the whole midi/software thing is fairly recent and most people don't want to change what they are using for a few little effects? Thanks, Drew.

Any suggestions to make it less busy (I think that comes with using the original song as i don't have access to just vocals tracks or just the bass line). Cheers, Drew.

Here's my finished remix of thriller. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU6za6JUKeQ

He guys, I have just finished my first half decent remix and wanted to get some feed back. It's not really that good but it's more than just drums added to the original. Cheers, Drew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye69IPsPzvw

Cheers guys, I'm waiting on some new gear atm but as soon as it arrives I'll make a promo of exactly what i would play if i were in the club playing and give them that and hope that something comes out of it. Thanks, Drew.

Thanks guys, I'll practise my transitions and what not and make a promo as soon as i can. Should the promo just be pretty much a one hour set or something or should it be lots of transitions and lots of songs leaving each song about a minute to 30 secs long (I've never made a promo cd so i don't really know what to do lol) Thanks, Drew.

Hey guys, Thanks heaps for the quick replies. I looked on beatport and found some sweet tracks when i first heard of it, I'll have to get the names of the tracks and download a bit of stuff. I'm thinking now that i've got a 130-150 song set of house music (deep, electro etc) i thought i may be ready at looking at playing at a club with a bit of practice. What should I be practicing and what should I be good at in being able to play at a club ( i made about three mistakes in my 3 hour set at my mates party). Also i'm going to the club i want to play at in a few nights, should i make a promo cd (is it legal?) or something to give to them? Thanks guys, Drew.

HI i'm Drew (or eventuallyto be called DJsYnx when i'm good enough to have a DJ name lol), I've only recently gotten into djing about two months ago. I've had a bit of experience in playing with music (remixing and audio engineering type stuff) but have only just started doing live djing. I had my first 'gig' last friday night at my mates 18th, so i thought it's time to join a forum to brag about my crappy performance lol (really to get some tips). I 'spin' mainly House (Ministry of Sound is my main source) as I want to eventually play at clubs and thats what the best local club plays. Though i really like Breaks and would like to 'spin' that as well though i don't know of any places to get some good break's music. All i've got is some Crystal Method (the divided by night album and some other random tracks). Drew.