Thanks man,you have really helped me out...i have direction again.....I'm going to fuck fruity loops off and start to play with abelton...i have one synth plugin im yet to download that i got with my sound card i get to choose from either absynth,massive,fm8 or guitar rig 4 pro...witch one is the best for techno or beginning?...it will be my first plugin i use...I will be getting a very basic midi keyboard...im sorry i think im kinda asking this question again sorta but will any sort of controller help me with abelton to give me a little more hands on feel to it in terms of controlling levels etc or will the keyboard be enough? Once again thank you soo much man you have put me on a really good direction with your comment ''you know what music sounds like so copy it, pretty simple.'' You are a legend mate....makes me wanna do this on the roof of my father in laws 1969 firebird while he watches